St. Louis 2025 Game #111 thread – Friday, August 1 at San Diego Padres

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  • #288909
    Brian Walton
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    After Thursday’s travel day…
    8:40 p.m.
    LHP Matthew Liberatore (6-8, 4.04) vs. RHP Nick Pivetta (10-3, 2.81)
    FanDuel // KMOX

    #289193
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    FYI here,
    The Braves got eight (8) runs in the top of the 8th at Crosley Field last night and took a 11-3 lead on the Reds.

    The Reds came back and got eight (8) runs in the last of the 8th and tied the game 11-11.

    The Braves won it 12-11 in 10 innings.

    I wonder if there’s ever been an inning where one team scored 8 runs in the top of the inning and the other team got 8 runs in the bottom of the inning?

    r/Esteemed Rat

    #289194
    858booyah
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    You would think the corresponding roster moves already know and are headed to SD. We need 3 arms and I don’t think Granillo can be one of them yet.

    Best guess is Fernandez, Munoz and Roycroft if they go with three pitchers. All on the 40 man.

    #289195
    KeepComingBack
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    Best guess is Fernandez, Munoz and Roycroft if they go with three pitchers. All on the 40 man

    Sounds logical to me. Good luck to Oli managing the bullpen the next 2 months. Hopefully 25′ ends with some hope from those guys

    #289199
    Jnevel
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    Brian told me that Granillo is eligible due to the trades. Granillo, Fernandez, for sure then. Probably Munoz as a third.

    #289200
    gscottar
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    Closing out games is going to be interesting with this group assuming that we have many leads to close out. I could see innings 7-9 being Leahy, JoJo, and O’Brien.

    This will be a tough series. San Diego loaded up at the deadline and they are going to be fired up to try to catch the Dodgers.

    #289201
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    At this point there’s no use in having any expectations. I’m going to sit back, watch the show. Anticipating the changes brought by Bloom and the new regime. If nothing else, i hope he can bring some energy and hope to the fanbase. I’m tired of all the negativism. They’ve earned it, but baseball is supposed to be fun. This has been anything but for the last several years.

    #289202
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    This is the part of the season when the buyers inflate their records and the sellers pile up the losses.

    Many years I watched the Cardinals go from 15-20 games over .500 up to 30-35 games over .500 by feasting on the bottom feeders this part of the season.

    The Cards were bottom feeders in ’23 & now in ’25. I would not call them that last year although they barely poked their heads over .500.

    This year the bats will probably have to wake up to stay above .500 because the back end of the bullpen has obviously been gutted.

    Oli’s overall record will probably dip below .500. His first year ’22, is easily his best and will likely remain so for quite some time.

    The past decade:

    No playoffs: 2016, 2017, 2018, 2023, 2024, 2025
    Playoffs: 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022

    1 playoff series win over an entire decade. Think about that.

    We gotta hope Bloom is ‘the man’ because if he’s not the misery will continue for at least 5 more years…

    #289204
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    Yep, the thing now is how this new bullpen group shakes out. Then we will see if any vets get traded in the off-season, or what deals Bloom does.

    The Bloom regime is more or less starting now. Whether the Bloom falls off the rose at some point, like it did in Boston when he traded Mookie Betts, or we see rosier days ahead remains to be seen.

    #289205
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    Well if he can trade Gray and / or Arenado he’d be a hero instead of a goat here.

    We need 3 good starting pitchers, a closer, a set up guy,a catcher, and two MOTO bats – one in the outfield and one in the infield.

    We have enough of everything else to construct a pretty good roster – but ZERO studs to build around – plenty of edge / filler guys though.

    We can develop players, sign FAs, and / or trade for them.

    Off the ML roster for now I’d keep Winn, Walker, Scott, and Herrera. I’d be willing to trade anybody else.

    Nootbar, Burleson, Gorman, Contreras, Arenado, Donovan, etc. can all go.

    I like Contreras’ offensive numbers as a catcher but at 1B not good enough.

    I love Donovan but you have to give to get.

    I guess the moves Bloom makes over the winter will tell us how long he thinks it will take to find a WS type team again…

    #289230
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    FYI again,
    Last night was the 3rd time two teams scored at least eight (8) runs in the same inning. Oddly enough it was fairly recent. I believe 2004 and 2007.

    Din-din today is a CCFF! After a trip to the grocery it will be time for some Catfish Fiddlers out at the Amish restaurant out on the lake.

    #289237
    jj-cf-stl
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    Since returning from the IL, Walker has an .807 ops, but the ops is aided by a .423 BAbip over 51 PA’s, and no HR’s.

    Walkers 12/63 bb/k before the most recent IL, is a 5/14 bb/k after, which is nothing to write home about, but improvement.

    During 24 July games we had 18 HR’s and a .365 SLG. Only three multi-hr games in 24, and a dozen games w/out a HR. We need HR power and whoever supplies it will stand out.

    Homerless in July? Saggese, Walker, Pages, Arenado, Winn. Ouch.

    #289238
    jj-cf-stl
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    July HR’s:
    1 – Fermin, Scott, Herrera and Noot
    2 – Pozo, Gorman
    3 – Contreras, Donovan
    4 – Burly

    #289246
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    I’d nearly forgotten that the ’25 season wasn’t over and that the Cardinals were still obligated to suit up and take to the field for 52 more games. I wonder if they wish they could just pack it in and simply go home?

    #289248
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    Until I saw it mentioned earlier in this thread, I’d also forgotten that the guy who calls himself Bloom once traded away a player named Mookie Betts…I’m not entirely certain that the one named Bloom will save us. In fact, in the not too distant future most of us may reminisce with fond and loving memories back to the glorius era of Johnny and his traveling secretary…

    #289249
    jj-cf-stl
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    They all want big money and that comes from production, not packing it in.
    Lol, half the roster is just trying to hold their spot 😀

    #289255
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    You’re probably right, jj, but I was led to understand that a lot of these guys enjoy fishing and playing golf. And then, there’s always video games and jewelry shopping for the lastest styles in sparkly earrings and necklaces…At any rate, we ought to be able to discern from their individual demeanor and body language which players are simply going through the motions and don’t really at all want to be on the field. At times, several of them have looked entirely uninterested all season long.

    #289256
    Brian Walton
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    It is true that Bloom traded Betts away – but he had a lot of help making the decision. It is worthwhile reading up on the history. He wears it, especially for the players Boston received in return, but it was clearly an organizational decision to not sign Betts to a long-term contract.

    Ownership’s stance was terrible to me, as I saw Betts as the guy the Red Sox should have done whatever it took to keep (ala Molina here). They are one of the wealthiest franchises, yet they are running it like a mid market team.

    #289261
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    Win some lose some, but the scoreboard says he lost the big one and the big ones aren’t easily forgotten.

    #289262
    Brian Walton
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    Context matters, too.

    #289264
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    I agree to an extent, but it’s not easy to convince the guy who may be paying all the way up to fifteen or twenty bucks for a seat at Fenway…And don’t even get me started on the price of a scorecard and hot dog!

    #289265
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    I think what attacted BDW to Bloom is that Bloom has a stellar reputation of building strong farm systems. He did that in Tampa and in Boston both. That is an important piece of the puzzle to be a good build from within organization. Of course we will eventually have to supplement from the outside so that is TBD at the moment.

    #289268
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    And when anyone ever mentions how profitable or wealthy any particular franchise may or may not be, I always wonder how they determine how profitable they indeed are in comparison to the rest of their fellow team owners since not one of these franchises has ever been willing to open up the proverbial books for examintation. I mean, who’s to conclude that the owners of the Dodgers, Yankees or Red Sox wrap a larger rubber band around their bankroll than does someone like our own Willie Jr. and exactly how do they arrive at that conclusion?

    #289269
    jj-cf-stl
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    They let Dombrowski break the cap multiple times and Bloom got their “reset” duties.

    Those same fans got a ring in 2018 and multiple payrolls we can’t even imagine. The 2019 Sox salaries were loaded with hard contracts and Mookie just did 20mil as an arb2….. The context was high leverage 😀

    #289270
    Brian Walton
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    The owner of the Red Sox (and Liverpool football, and the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Boston Globe and part of a racing team), John Henry, is worth $5.5 billion, per Forbes. That is fifth in MLB.

    According to the same source, DeWitt is worth about $4 billion, ranked 10th among MLB owners. Steve Cohen leads the way at $21.3 B.

    I am not making excuses on behalf of any of them. How they spend it is their own business, but we do see the results, both in terms of payroll and win-loss record.

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