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September 9, 2022 at 11:44 am #199835
Breaking: MLB's competition committee has voted to implement a pitch clock, larger bases and ban defensive shifts starting in 2023, sources tell @JeffPassan.
15-second clock with bases empty, 20 with runners on; and two fielders on each side of 2B bag, both feet on the dirt. pic.twitter.com/uPSZ9GbZ8j
— ESPN (@espn) September 9, 2022
September 9, 2022 at 11:45 am #199836The players disagree, for reasons that are unclear, but they cannot stop the train.
Statement on Competition Committee vote pic.twitter.com/8176xAwPZT
— MLBPA Communications (@MLBPA_News) September 9, 2022
September 9, 2022 at 11:54 am #199839Bigger bases apparently did not lead to an increase in steals as hoped, so they call it a matter of safety. Not sure I get that. Not sure I care a lot, either.
New on-field rules instituted beginning with the 2023 season to create more game action and improve pace of play: https://t.co/wf01JRYC3t pic.twitter.com/ZlhkeyBPKE
— MLB (@MLB) September 9, 2022
September 9, 2022 at 11:56 am #199840I’m gonna disagree with the players on this one. The pitch clock and shift ban made so much sense. Both will mean more action in a condensed period of time, which is a great thing. The bigger bases should mean more stolen bases and steal attempts. These are great things.
September 9, 2022 at 11:58 am #199841A guess is that the players may have wanted something else in return for their yes votes.
September 9, 2022 at 12:13 pm #199842Here are some stats compiled by MLB Network researchers to show the effects the shift and the lack of a pitch clock have had on baseball in recent years. The changes coming in ‘23 should greatly help improve the pace of games. pic.twitter.com/3IVHrUDGb6
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) September 9, 2022
September 9, 2022 at 12:18 pm #199844Not implemented by MLB – yet… pic.twitter.com/JSXw02TBIz
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) September 9, 2022
September 9, 2022 at 12:49 pm #199846Pitch clocks…make believe baserunners in extras…All these silly rules to get it over with as soon as possible? How about this, Rob? Two outs per half inning! That oughta’ compress the time fame. If you’re gonna be a bear, be a grizzly..
September 9, 2022 at 1:28 pm #1998491982 willieParticipantI don’t mind bigger bases though I don’t think it means anything. I also think banning the extreme shifts is good for the game. The pitch clock is just stupid. All it’s going to allow is for players to game the system. Just have to wait til clock is going low and take off cause pitcher will have to throw to plate. Sure they can anticipate that and not but then the player may not run. It’s stupid to have a pitch clock in general at least this short of one. It’s like the 24 second clock in the NBA, it’s ruined that sport. I think a thirty second one would be fine for MLB but 15 and 20, just stupid. How about MLB just keep killing their sport til there is nobody left to watch their games. I never watch NBA regular season games, just may ditch the MLB now. Just terrible
September 9, 2022 at 2:13 pm #199851Although I don’t at all like the IF shift, I think a manager and his staff should be allowed to position their defense however they choose. The IF shift is nothing new. It’s been deployed to varying patterns of consistency for over 100 years and I don’t feel a rule change is necessary to lessen it’s effect on a game. The key to making it disappear is to defeat it by placing the baseball into play in a manner that makes the opposition think twice about doing it again. However, hitters don’t seem to be willing to do that. The more the IF shift is subjected to being burned, the less you’ll see it set into place.
September 9, 2022 at 2:29 pm #199854I agree 1982willie. Before long MLB will be about like the WWE with all it’s stupid crap. Sometimes I wonder who is running the show and if anybody has any common sense.
September 9, 2022 at 2:37 pm #199855I am definitely in favor of banning the shift. The defensive shifts have hurt the game IMO. I am indifferent on the pitch clock and larger bases.
September 9, 2022 at 3:29 pm #1998631982 willieParticipantShifting has always been done, this is true. Moving a guy off or on the line, or playing more up the middle. But I’m sorry putting a guy in the outfield that is supposed to be an infielder is just wrong. I feel the same way about taking an outfielder and putting him on infield. I wonder if that is being targeted as well.
September 9, 2022 at 3:59 pm #199869With all of the technology in place to measure distance, speed, launch angle, etc. I think it’s high time to implement the “5 Bagger Rule.” This rule allows for when a slugger such as Albert Pujols rips a mammoth, gargantuan tater which travels into the stratosphere in such a manner as the one he hit off Lidge in game 5 of the ’05 NLCS, that once he rounds the bases and steps on HP his team is credited with the run and he’s allowed to continue on to 1B so that he is a legal baserunner and can possibly be driven in to score another run by any ensuing hitters…The official scoring of this epic type HR will be termed a “5 Bagger.” That type of rule oughta’ put nore fans in the seats. Thank you…I’m Rob Manfred and here’s my address.
September 9, 2022 at 6:28 pm #199881Dakota Hudson getting nervous with the incoming pitch clock.
September 9, 2022 at 9:13 pm #199935I like the ban if shifts a lot. Pitch clock is fine, nobody likes a pitcher just kicking the dirt around up there. I don’t like the bigger bases. Watching some minor league games it looks goofy as heck, but whatever.
How long before teams start moving the LF into shallow RF? Or put the 2B on the edge of the dirt where they shift to now and the LF in shallow right center? May be a big risk with no LF, but someone is going to come up with a stat to justify it.September 10, 2022 at 4:18 am #199949Ha! Yes a Hudson game can really drag!!
September 10, 2022 at 6:04 am #199951Hudson had to work under the pitch clock for Memphis this week and pitched his best game in a long time.
September 10, 2022 at 8:30 am #199964Exactly when does pitch clock start? When the batter is set in the box?
How about a rule that prevents the batter from stepping out of the box after every pitch? Only once per at bat and when they get brushed back / knocked down. Stepping out of the box after every pitch is a huge time waster.
Bigger bases? Ok, lol
Ban the shift? I suppose that means the ss has to stay on his ‘side’ of 2b as does the 2b? ss / 2b should still be able to play in line with the 2b bag, right? This is probably a good rule.
Is there a limit on how far in the outfield can play? Can you still bring then into the infield if you want to?
The runner on 2b in extra innings just needs to go away. I’d rather say three extra innings max and call it a tie – and I hate ties – instead of this rule. Or after 3 extra innings go to a homerun derby with each team pitching to itself? Or have a beer chugging contest? Or run around the bases backwards? Yeah, i really don’t like the free man on second rule, lol.
September 10, 2022 at 11:08 am #199975Notice that they did not limit the time between innings. I get fed up with three minutes of commercials while the players are loitering in the dugout. I believe there is a minimum change time in the minors but the bigs would have to give up commercial time to implement that.
Where is the data that says the fans are leaving the game because of the length.
September 10, 2022 at 11:20 am #199977SoonerinNC…The ads on TV are bad enough, but it’s worse while attending games at the ballpark. Between innings you’re subjected to 3 or more minutes of hip-hop type music that’s amped up to the decibel level of a carrier flight deck.
September 10, 2022 at 12:59 pm #199982A direct quote from Hummel’s article by the Cardinal SS…”It makes no sense, personally. It’s not baseball.”
September 10, 2022 at 1:06 pm #199983Why not make ALL foul balls strikes.
For that matter, if you want to speed things up, limit each batter to two strikes and three balls.September 10, 2022 at 2:23 pm #1999851 out per inning.
September 10, 2022 at 3:04 pm #199989And it will make the ratio of play tô ads/breaks worse which I think Will not go over well.
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