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  • #318740
    1toughdominican
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    It’s my guess that the majority of these tremendously wealthy guys view their baseball team as a toy that they can entertain themselves with. They’re not too obssessed with any enormous type of fiscal gains. Obviously it’s a good investment, but it’s not at all unlike your average guy who owns a ’69 Yenko Chevelle SS. You polish it up, tinker with it, spend some money to upgrade the powerplant and suspension and drive it around the neighborhood from time to time to show it off. It can’t help but to increase in value and it’s nice to have out there in the garage to look at, admire, and think about how lucky you are to own that sort of a neato-torpedo playtoy.

    #318769
    LACardFan
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    I think it’s funny that people think billionaires:
    1) Don’t try to make money off their investments
    2) Don’t understand basic finance
    3) Don’t understand how to run a business profitably

    I’ll give an example that was widely reported last year:

    “The Pittsburgh Pirates, according to information received by the players union and confirmed by several owners, are one of the most profitable teams in all of baseball, stashing a huge chunk of their revenue sharing monies instead of investing in their team year after year,” Nightengale wrote.

    Nightengale’s Reporting

    #318770
    LACardFan
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    New Angels Owner Stan Kroenke Has Already Made Nearly $20 Billion On His Sports Teams

    Forbes on Kroenke

    #319082
    Brian Walton
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    I cannot believe that owners actually think that fans are so stupid that they would believe the owners want a salary cap for them, the fans. When have the owners ever placed the fan ahead of their profits?

    It is too bad that Meyer has to clarify this like Captain Obvious, but it is apparently necessary.

    P.S. As I see it, the owners have every right to try to maximize their profits, just as the players have every right to fight for their side.

    #319097
    ZTR
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    I’m interested in a salary cap as a way to improve competitive balance.

    There are many, many factors involved but teams that have money to burn and are willing to set it on fire can (with competent management of course) stockpile more talent and paper over player injuries and busts much easier than ‘poor’ teams.

    Money isn’t the end all be all but it sure is nice to have.

    #319098
    1toughdominican
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    I wonder if the owners would agree to some sort of cap on the profits they earn? I think that’s fair…

    #319101
    ZTR
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    Well, salary caps are usually set up as a percentage of league wide revenues

    In the NFL under the current CBA, the players get 48% and the owners get 52% of the pie. Obviously both sides want the pie to be as big as possible.

    It’s not about limiting the money the players get to some arbitrary number; it’s about deciding how to split up the total revenue pie and then each franchise has the same allowance to spend on players.

    Now what I don’t know is how league wide revenues work in MLB vs the NFL. It may not be as neat and tidy in baseball.

    #319102
    Brian Walton
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    Yes, I think there are different views of what is included in revenue. Further, I don’t think ownership is willing to open their books to ensure compliance. When there is so much money involved, there has be more rigor than “trust me”.

    #319105
    1toughdominican
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    You can be assured that never, ever, ever at any time will ownership willingly open up their books to any sort of scrutiny unless they’re subjected to an official legal decree that places them under pain of suffering for an act of deliberate noncompliance…

    #319109
    gscottar
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    MLB already has a soft salary cap. It is called the CBT. Unfortunately the penalties aren’t severe enough so the pragmatic approach would be to find a way to strengthen those penalties instead of shutting everything down for several months in pursuit of something that isn’t going to happen.

    #319129
    Brian Walton
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    #319133
    ZTR
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    Ooof. That’s a nasty bit of business if that’s what he did.

    #319137
    blingboy
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    I wonder if it somehow stacks with the allegation floated earlier that the Dodgers hid revenue from the MLB revenue sharing calculations.

    #319138
    ZTR
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    Bling – if I were a betting man I’d say the Dodgers did it in the library with the pipe wrench.

    #319146
    gscottar
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    The welfare owners don’t spend their revenue sharing checks anyway. In the pocket it goes.

    #319151
    1toughdominican
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    These guys are all upright, forthcoming and candid anytime they sit down at the bargaining table. Not at all unlike the honest and upstanding duo of Bud “The Crook” Selig and Jerry “King of Collusion” Reinsdorf…Never would Walter, or any of them, dare to attempt anything underhanded, shady or criminal. Simply accept their character as trustworthy and accede approval…

    #319160
    LetsGoBlues86
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    The Pablo Torre video on the shell game that Mark Warner has been using to fund his other enterprises is fascinating. Former Marlins owner Brian Samson is interviewed as part of the segment and says that MLB was aware of some of the self-dealing, but it appeared to benefit the league since it inflated the value of the Dodgers (and gave other owners an inflated data point to use when valuing their own franchises). It’s terrific journalism and a worthwhile watch.

    #319162
    gscottar
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    I have watched it LGB. I mentioned a few days ago how the owners were very happy with Walter when he bought the Dodgers at an inflated value because it helped their own values. Now they don’t seem to like him so much.

    #319163
    1toughdominican
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    Haha…Really?

    #319384
    Brian Walton
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    #319417
    ZTR
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    When is a floor not a floor? When you only have to be at 90% of it.

    I get that over a 4 year period a team would have to average the floor but still…..

    #319518
    gscottar
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    Making a distinction between minimum salary and minimum payroll is weird. Leave it to MLB to make things as complex as possible.

    #319523
    bicyclemike
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    That snip talks about how teams will be required to handle the cash if they are under the salary floor, but does not say how the floor will be computed. Will it be a flat amount, or some percentage of total revenues?

    #319553
    Brian Walton
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    I hope you understand…

    #319621
    gscottar
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