November 24, 2022 at 7:30 am #207526
Here’s a simple concept along with a simple question…You have a 1 year contract with your employer and the monetary terms of that contract state you are to be paid a salary of $50,000 for that year. At the end of that year, your employer offers you a new contract that states you are to be paid a $5000 salary for the ensuing year. Have you been offered a contract, or fired?November 24, 2022 at 7:42 am #207527
I can remember one time the Cardinals were negotiating with a high level player represented by Scott Boras, I don’t remember who. Things were stalling and there had been some finger pointing and Mo made a point of saying the team had offered a contract. Boras said yeah, a contract and dinner at Red Lobster. So yeah, a contract being offered isn’t necessarily what it seems.November 24, 2022 at 7:50 am #207528
Well, another simple concept that has been put into effect since labor first realized the benefits of the collective bargaining system is stop going to work when management offers up a contract that contains terms that are overwhelmingly deemed to be unacceptable.November 24, 2022 at 8:26 am #207536Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
Lotsa theories, but we are woefully short of facts. Hopefully when Maddux is announced in Texas and meets the local press, they will ask him about it. He may or may not be candid, though.
Stepping back from the “why”, do folks think the results of the 2023 team will suffer from his loss? If so, why? If not, what does it matter why he left?November 24, 2022 at 8:30 am #207537stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Stepping back from the “why”, do folks think the results of the 2023 team will suffer from his loss? If so, why? If not, what does it matter why he left?
I believe that the switch from Maddux will be a net positive…so the reasons for him leaving don’t matter too much to me.November 24, 2022 at 8:35 am #207538Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
One other potential consideration. New Rangers manager Bruce Bochy is clearly an old-school guy.
In promoting Dusty Blake, the Cardinals are putting more emphasis on new school. Maddux surely saw that coming.November 24, 2022 at 10:11 am #207549
… do folks think the results of the 2023 team will suffer from his loss?
I think the 2023 team will have more of everyone pulling on the same end of the rope. Even if its the wrong end, its better than having cross purposes. Hopefully the altered environment will help players who struggled without setting back players who excelled.November 25, 2022 at 1:13 pm #207602CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
Without a shred of evidence, to speculate that the Cardinals tried tô cut the salaries of Maddux and Albert is ridiculous. Something like that would get around quickly and ruin the team’s reputation making it harder tô hire in the future. I really doubt it is true.November 25, 2022 at 1:21 pm #207603
Their reputation around the league was undoubtedly sullied when they canned Mike Schildt. What’s your theory on the reason that Jeff Albert and Mike Maddux are now employed elsewhere?November 25, 2022 at 3:21 pm #207604GameCardParticipantFree
Their reputation around the league was undoubtedly sullied when they canned Mike Schildt. What’s your theory on the reason that Jeff Albert and Mike Maddux are now employed elsewhere?
I liked Shildt but no other MLB team hired him as a Manager. So it doesn’t seem like our reputation was in too much dis-repair.November 27, 2022 at 9:55 am #207658CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
I think Maddux wanted tô go home and hás the Texas job already liked up
I would speculate Albert wanted more Money than STL was willing tô pay (does not imply a pay cut)December 2, 2022 at 10:11 pm #207962
We will see how deGrom does with Maddux.
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