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  • #211934
    gscottar
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    I mentioned a week or two ago that Hudson was an underappreciated asset and could really shine this season another year removed from TJ surgery. It would not surprise me at all to see him bounce back bigly.

    #211936
    bccran
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    BB – I’m a fan of the cleaning lady.
    I heard she’s into advanced metrics.
    Never underestimate her.

    #211941
    Brian Walton
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    Katie Woo scores the Cardinals offseason a C+. Seems about right.

    https://theathletic.com/4132417/2023/01/31/mlb-offseason-grades/

    #211945
    bccran
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    Sometimes it’s the subtle additions that they don’t take into account. Like Fermin, Rodriguez, Zuniga, and Mercado. Below the radar moves.

    #211952
    PadsFS
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    Subtle. LMAO. You’d make Baghdad Bob blush.

    #211953
    Oliver
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    Christmas Story movie moment….A++++++++++

    #211956
    bccran
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    You never know, Pads. Why are Fermin, Rodriguez, and
    Zuniga on the 40 man roster? Rodriguez has hit 100 on the gun. And Mercado’s speed and defensive prowess may play as the 4th outfielder. Late inning defensive replacement if one of our starting OFs goes down and Yepez or Burleson is out there. Plus a good pinch runner.

    #211959
    14NyquisT
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    I’d like to see Mercado produce sufficiently to go North with the team… but at whose expense.
    As it looks now, the Springfield OF has more promise than the Memphis OF.

    #211964
    bccran
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    Who do you have penciled in for the Memphis and Springfield outfields?

    #211965
    Jnevel
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    I think someone may get cut or traded in Spring training. We have Hurst, Mercado, Toerner, Antico, and Pinder who really all play the same position (CF). Walker and Gomez need to play every day in the corners. My guess is that Toerner gets cut and Antico has to start the year at AA. Toerner may also just get moved to AA to make room. And then there’s still Koperniak who could also be in AAA.

    #211967
    bccran
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    For my money, the best of that lot is Antico. Especially for what the Cards need if O’Neill goes down again and Carlson underproduces.

    #211973
    1toughdominican
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    If Katie Woo scores the Redbird offseason with a C+ how can that not be right? I mean, who the heck am I to question Katie Woo?

    #211976
    Oliver
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    No need to be snarky about a person doing her job. You don’t agree that’s fine. It is her opinion, what is yours?

    #211979
    Jnevel
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    I’d probably give them a C+ too. They have a really good team and didn’t do anything to make it worse. But, they didn’t do a whole lot to make it better either. Contreras is a nice addition for now but may not look like that in 3 years. And the minor league signings and rule 5 draft look like depth or lottery tickets. I mean I like some of the lottery tickets we bought, but the odds of them paying off are pretty low.

    #211987
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    This is not a really good team or even a “very” good team. It is a good team on the second tier and not with the tier one teams but the best in the Central Division. They did nothing to make the team worse but didn’t do enough to make the team better. Contreras replaces Pujols. Negative one plus one is zero. Now, they could have done nothing and given Knizner the catching job and been in the hole. But they made the move to stay even. This is the same offense as last year. Junior and Mo are hoping that O’neill, Carlson, Nootbar, Walker, etc., have career years or close to that and then they would be worth watching. It’s all hope as a strategy, which I think is foolhardy but I’m prepared to see what happens because they will never raise the payroll enough to bring in enopugh superstars and that is the most frustrating thing for me.

    #211998
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    I’m sorry you feel that way Nathan. I personally feel that focusing on bringing in overpriced free agent superstars is typically an ever failing pursuit. You never have enough or it just never quite works out. The teams that win are the teams that build a good team from within with the help of some good trades and a few key signings and then a little luck in the playoffs. The team that “wins” the offseason has never won the World Series. At least not that I can remember. It didn’t do the Tigers and Rangers much good last year. It was the Phillies the year before that. Typically, it’s the Yankees. This year, it’s the Mets. We will get to see if history shines on them after shunning so manny. Great teams are more than a sum of their parts. There are so many immeasurable nuances that can’t be found on a stat sheet. Talent is extremely important. But it’s also about heart. It’s about character. It’s about confidence. It’s about positive emotional connection at just the right moment. And so many other possible synergies that define us as humans. Which is why we play the games. It’s why March Madness is so fun. I look forward to a fun season.

    #212004
    blingboy
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    It could be argued that Woo is penalizing the organization for having upper level prospects and young MLBers who are too promising to block, and it should not be mandatory to trade some of them away to satisfy the talking heads.

    Whether I agree with C+ depends on how that ranks with what the other 29 teams were graded. Is ‘C’ the average with an equal distribution of grades above and below? If C+ is among the handful of worst grades, I do not agree with that.

    There was one need that stood above all others and the organization did not scrimp when it came to filling that hole. They were the team that went to 5 years because that is what it took. That should be enough to avoid a grade below the average. The pass on adding at least a pretty good innings eater to the rotation, when it was possible to do so without betting the farm on an Ace, would preclude being among the better graded teams. So I would give them whatever the true average grade is.

    #212005
    Brian Walton
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    The article ranks all 30 teams. 18 teams scored better than the Cardinals and four others were also C+. In other words, only seven teams scored worse.

    #212014
    14NyquisT
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    Woo has the right to be wrong. She may have looked at our rotation and compared it to other teams… hence the C+. Us guys here tend to overrate the Cards when there is a comparison with other teams. That also includes prospects rankings which vary so widely. Just play the games… by October the grades might be upside down.

    #212016
    14NyquisT
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    Bcc asked this earlier. I think he’s dying to compare his answer to some others.

    Who do you have penciled in for the Memphis and Springfield outfields?

    I’m going to take a stab off the top of my head just to add to Hot Stove chatter.

    Memphis:
    *Hurst
    Pinder
    *Gomez
    *Toerner
    Mercado
    Walker
    Antico
    The AAA level of OFers is too crowded. Two/three will need to go elsewhere especially with Koperniak in the wings. *My guess is that Hurst, Gomez, Toerner are Plan B candidates. Without needing to say this, injuries will change their status.

    Springfield:
    Romeri
    Koperniak
    Jo Baez
    Winn

    I know this will turn out to be wrong. These “pencil-ins” always are.

    #212017
    Brian Walton
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    Quick reactions to Ny’s post…

    This must assume Yepez and Burleson are with St. Louis.

    Where would Gomez go? He was recently put on the 40-man roster. Can’t see why he would be on the bubble.

    Baez isn’t ready for Double-A and Romeri isn’t, either. Winn is not being moved to the outfield.

    Thanks for sharing and soliciting thoughts.

    #212022
    bccran
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    14 – I don’t have an answer. I do know that right now the only OFers in the system (outside of the starting 3 and Burleson and Yepez) who excite me are Walker, Gomez, Baez, and Cho. But that can always change.

    #212034
    Card4Ever
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    I am not for trading prospects just to be trading prospects. I am willing to trade prospects to fill obvious needs, and we have an obvious need of a top of the rotation starter. (Wishful thinking, a 1 and a strong 3, as only Matz is signed for next year).

    #212040
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    My Pencil Marks:

    St. Louis:
    Carlson
    Nootbaar
    O’Neill
    Burleson
    Yepez

    Memphis:
    Walker
    Gomez
    Mercado
    Hurst
    Pinder

    Springfield:
    Antico
    Koperniak
    Toerner
    Reichenborn
    Jones/Lott & 1st/DH

    Peoria:
    Baez
    Romeri
    Rotondo
    Scott
    Cabell

    Palm Beach:
    Cho
    Church
    Iadisernia
    Holgate
    Fletcher ???

    #212042
    blingboy
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    flood21, thanks for putting it in order. I agree as to AAA and AA, and just have to take your word for it below that. It does point up the potential competition between Walker and Gomez to be next man up.

    Walker has the potential draft pick in his favor, but apart from that it may come down to who is hot when the need arises. Walker is yet to be tested at AAA. Gomez did well in his half season, even after a sizeable drop off from his sky high numbers in AA. But can he repeat?

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