St. Louis 2025 Game #46 thread – Saturday, May 17 at Kansas City Royals

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    Herrera and Walker vs a lefty. Burly and Gorman sit.

    That seems to be their lineup. Against lefties Pages c. Against rh pitching Herrera c Gorman 2nd Burly dh Noot moves to rf Donovan lf.

    #282459
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    Against lefties i get it KCB. Oli’s issue will be vs righties. He won’t want to sit Herrera, but vs all these lefties it hasn’t shown up yet.

    #282460
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    Cubbies/White Sox at Wrigley again this afternoon…Another lock.

    #282461
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    Yep, Herrera catching more could add starts. We’ve let Pozo dry rot enough to be forgotten.

    #282462
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    Yep I don’t see Herrera out of the lineup more than the occasional scheduled rest.

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    I like the DH platoon as long as Burleson is hitting. It gives Herrera plenty of rest from catching and stabilizes that position. Yes, DH is a position. It’s not as easy as people think.

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    Wise move 1TD, on grabbing the Hershey’s chocolate syrup. Definitely a must-have with vanilla ice cream.

    Let’s look at some former Cardinals numbers. Jack Flaherty is 2-5 with a mid-4s ERA. A 2-5 record for a team well over .500 and leading the AL Central is not good. No regrets there for now.

    Tommy Edman is only hitting .252 and his OBP is a paltry .295. He does have 8 long balls and a 128 OPS+. Let’s call him break even – he is not good based on Rat’s criteria with the low BA. And the low OBP keeps him from being stellar for many others. But the power surge is impressive, and he no doubt is playing solid defense.

    Ty O’Neill – after an excellent season in Boston is back to the injured, struggling Ty with only two dongs and a batting average under .200. His OPS+ is a minus, a feeble 76.

    So we can grade them this way for now, knowing things could change as the season moves on:

    Flaherty – D – not missed at this point; our starters have been mostly better

    Edman – C – doing okay and would be serviceable here, but we have others doing just as well

    O’Neill – F – not missed at this juncture

    #282466
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    Checking the standings I happened to notice that the Orioles are really struggling at 14 under even and last place in the ALE at 10.5 back.

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    Yeah 1TD, Baltimore has not had much go right. Not only is O’Neill not cutting it, but Kyle Gibson has been terrible.

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    Edman’s been on the IL since early May, Bikemike, and the last I checked they were saying he won’t be activated until some time next week. That’s a shame, because before he went down he was in a dead heat with Judge, Schwarber and Ohtani for the Big League lead in taters…Haha!

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    Yeah, he’s had some injury woes like O’Neill. It is odd that Edman’s power has amped up so much, at least early it did. He’s becoming Tyler O’Neill. 😀

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    I was getting a real good laugh out of Little Eddie’s wildly unlikely power surge earlier this season. Every time I saw his name leading Ohtani, Betts and Freeman in every offensive category, I’d get get a good belly laugh and baseball’s supposed to be fun. But all jokes aside, Edman’s not going to hang any tremendously impressive OBP or BA numbers up on the board, but he’s going to provide something that can’t be measured on the back of his card. It’s been altogether obvious to me for quite a while that Tommy Edman is a genuine winner. He’s going to provide the big play with the mitt or the bat at precisely the right time. You can’t calculate a baseball player like Tommy Edman with numbers.

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    Let’s see if Mikolas can give us a fighting chance.

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    Miles might be able to record an out or two with those socks…Haha! What are those things?

    #282473
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    That was near to an eephus.

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    We have to get Walker hitting. His defense is really good.

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    Yeah, that was a nice play to keep that baseball from rolling to the RF wall.

    #282477
    jj-cf-stl
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    Popped up a mistake. Got away with it.

    #282478
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    Now Mikolas throws one.

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    We have to get Walker hitting. His defense is really good.

    In 2023 or 2024, is this a sentence anyone thought would ever be said? I don’t think he has been really good, but he has been average at worst and is leaps and bounds better this year.

    #282480
    jj-cf-stl
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    Winn is not a fan of the southpaws change-up.

    #282481
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    Herrera just hits, hits, hits. Breaks up the no hit bid

    #282482
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    Did I forget to mention that Cameron’s working on a no-no?

    #282483
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    The D has looked good. Scott, Walker and Nado with plays

    #282484
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    Great start by Mikolas so far. Only at 65 hits, but I would have someone in the pen warming up. If he gives up a hit or a walk, pull him now that he is hitting 3rd time through the order. Pallante and Graceffo covered the game last night so the bullpen is fresh and able to cover up to 4

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