February 8, 2020 at 3:11 pm #121769
So I’m not sure what happened to my comment but I had posted several tweets from Rosenthal and Heyman about the deal falling through and now its gone.February 8, 2020 at 3:13 pm #121771
Here is an interesting possible story line.
New Red Sox GM makes first big trade.
Red Sox are almost universally ripped for getting so little in return.
Red Sox owner tells new GM to get more.
New GM creates/builds up injury concern to squeeze more out of the Twins.
The Twins give Red Sox the finger.
Real question is what #RedSox want. #MNTwins could send Graterol and lesser prospect to #Dodgers, then LAD could flip Graterol and a better prospect to BOS. But some in talks sense that negative media reaction to Verdugo-Graterol return for Betts-Price gave BOS ownership pause.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) February 8, 2020February 8, 2020 at 3:15 pm #121772
BHC, if you included more than two links in a single post (or maybe three – I can’t recall the limit off the top of my head), it is not going to get through. Sadly, this was needed to try to slow down spammers, who typically load their posts with links, trying to sell whatever it is they are selling.February 8, 2020 at 3:20 pm #121773
Bad day for the traditional media. A reporter formerly of The Athletic and now for hire “confirms” the report that its own original source now refutes. At this rate, he may be looking for work a while longer…
Original source now says that Twins talks remain ongoing, but the sides have made little progress in recent days. Apologies for confusion. https://t.co/DnvO2jDZ0Y
— Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) February 8, 2020February 8, 2020 at 3:30 pm #121774
Thanks for the heads up Brian. I think I had 3-4 links in the post and after I hit submit it vanished.
Heyman was reporting earlier that the Twins hadn’t pulled out yet, but they had set a deadline for something today about completing the deal and they’ve mentioned several of their Top 20 prospects but the Red Sox aren’t interested. The beat writer of the Twins has also said the Twins are pulling out.
Latest word: While the #MNTwins haven’t backed out quite yet, they are setting a deadline of today to resolve their part of the deal with Boston.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) February 8, 2020February 8, 2020 at 3:38 pm #121775
Interesting. Carig and Rosenthal seem to be hinting around the idea the Red Sox got cold feet about the trade.
Just tells you the scope of the culture shift in baseball. The Red Sox are SURPRISED that trading away a franchise icon who ranks within the sport’s Top 5 players would be seen as negative. The free pass from fans is now expected. https://t.co/whIBwvusks
— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) February 8, 2020February 8, 2020 at 3:39 pm #121776
It gets even better. Heyman jumps in to defend his fellow sportswriter – apparently without having read the article in question. The author blames it on a bad headline, when the first sentence of his article clearly says that if the trade is completed, it will not include the Twins.
And LaVelle does not write the headlines! https://t.co/aEewQOsLuI
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) February 8, 2020February 8, 2020 at 6:41 pm #121783mudvilleParticipantPaid - Annual
If the Red Sox made a deal, and are now reneging on that deal for a fabricated reason, then the Twins and every other respectable club should stay away from the Red Sox.February 8, 2020 at 7:33 pm #121788
Philosophically, it is difficult to argue with Justin Toerner’s point. However, reality is not going to allow that to happen. Even if the Rosenthals and local beat reporters would stop reporting transactions early, the word will get out from people who know people in organizations or with agents or in MLB HQ. There is no way to effectively stop this.
Here’s a concept. Let trades happen, and then report on them! All these reporters only care about being first. Meanwhile players and their families are emotional wrecks not knowing if they are or aren’t being traded from the only org they’ve known. No one cares who was 1st https://t.co/9GC1DrCiQM
— Justin Turner (@redturn2) February 8, 2020
Last point, I don’t think people, including myself, realize the impact that 280 characters can have on a person. While it seems like just a harmless report on 1 end, it can send the person/family on the other side into a tailspin. Again no one cares who’s 1st. #MultipleLevelTweet
— Justin Turner (@redturn2) February 8, 2020February 9, 2020 at 5:33 am #121792Minuteman3ParticipantFree
<Brian wrote: Philosophically, it is difficult to argue with Justin Toerner’s point.>
Gee Brian I think you have the “almost to the season” syndrome huh? Isn’t Toerner one of our rookies? And rookies don’t have points…..LOLFebruary 9, 2020 at 6:35 am #121797
I took a wrong Toern there!February 9, 2020 at 7:04 am #121798Boyer14ParticipantFree
Now way they should go after Price. Enormous contract, and he suffered a wrist injury last year.
He is going downward, and will soon be 35.February 9, 2020 at 5:35 pm #121839
Alright, it appears the deal is back on at some point.
Dodgers – Red Sox Trade
Dodgers get: Betts, Price, Cash (roughly half of Price’s contract)
Red Sox get: Alex Verdugo, Jeter Downs, Connor Wong
Dodgers – Twins Trade
Dodgers get: Brusdar Graterol and 2020 Competitive Round B Draft Pick
Twins get: Kenta Maeda, Cash
So it appears it’s no longer a three team trade.February 9, 2020 at 5:54 pm #121840February 9, 2020 at 7:43 pm #121843February 10, 2020 at 9:56 am #121899gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
I think Pederson would be a good fit for the Cardinals but the front office has never shown any interest that I know of.
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