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November 7, 2024 at 2:59 pm #271368
I’m sticking with Saggese as well. This should be easy to tabulate on Sunday. It will be interesting to see where the group goes next.
6. Saggese
November 7, 2024 at 3:11 pm #271370It will be interesting to see where the group goes next.
Uh oh. You just opened up that can of worms…lol
November 7, 2024 at 4:22 pm #271376My next one will knock your socks off, but I’ll hold off until we get #6 settled.
November 7, 2024 at 4:32 pm #271377LACardFan – Thanks for posting that link on Bernal. I’m not a subscriber, but I didn’t get blocked by a pay wall. One thing that doesn’t get mentioned enough about Yadi is that opposing teams cut way down on their stealing attempts with Yadi behind the plate. And he still caught 40% of base stealers. Yadi was well respected throughout the game.
I’m still not sure what we’ve got with Saggese. But I could say the same about Davis and Hjerpe. There have been questions about Saggese’s defense, but nobody is talking about that being a problem any more. Saggese had that AA MVP award in 2023, and his offense improved a lot during the second half of this past season which suggests that 2024 might have been something of an off year for Thomas Saggese. We’ll see.
#6 Saggese
November 7, 2024 at 5:35 pm #271383
cardsfan64Participant#6 – Saggese
November 7, 2024 at 6:52 pm #271389Sorry for posting before the close of #5. I knew most people would have already voted before I got off work and settled, so I posted my thoughts before I had work to see if it could sway anyone.
In regards to Saggase’s defense, he had some nice plays, but he looked just ok overall to me. I also see most scouts as having as a 45 as well, so slightly below average.
#6 – Cooper Hjerpe
November 7, 2024 at 10:59 pm #271403bccran
ParticipantSaggese at #6.
November 8, 2024 at 7:54 am #271417We have 17 of us participating this year. I think right now the vote this round is 10 for Saggese and 1 for Hjerpe with 6 votes left to be cast.
I’ll leave you in suspense until Sunday when we officially count up the ballots for the big reveal . . .
November 8, 2024 at 8:51 am #271419Saggese #6
November 8, 2024 at 9:26 am #271423PadsFS
ParticipantHjerpe – #6
I don’t think Saggese is gonna make it as a regular.
I like Davis and Bernal here too.
November 8, 2024 at 10:07 am #271426I’ll leave you in suspense until Sunday when we officially count up the ballots for the big reveal . . .
stl25 is the most organized person I have ever seen when it comes to doing these annual rankings, but considering how antsy everyone is with their voting and comments, perhaps in the future we consider not having a two or three day gap in between votes.
November 8, 2024 at 10:38 am #271430Last year I did roughly 36 hour intervals. That may have been a touch fast for some. I’m ok with the current plan. It’s just that there is a big gap between Thursday and Sunday. Maybe we should have just went with every other day even if that would have made the closing days become a moving target.
The good news is that the plan has us finishing by year end around the time Brian is doing his own list.
November 8, 2024 at 10:43 am #2714316. Saggese
November 8, 2024 at 10:46 am #271433
stlcard25ParticipantIn many years, we get extra folks trickling in when they see that we have a running vote. This year so far we haven’t seemed to. Votes for single places tend to end up herding together but hopefully there will be some more excitement when we get to spots where there is less consensus.
November 8, 2024 at 10:48 am #271436
stlcard25ParticipantAlso, my #6 is Cooper Hjerpe. I think he’s got the stuff to make an impact, even if it may only be as a reliever. I’m still not totally convinced that he won’t make it as a starter. Saggese is more a utility guy for me but I see the appeal.
November 8, 2024 at 11:26 am #27144214NyquisT
Participant#6 Saggese. Starting with No.7 things will open up I think.
November 8, 2024 at 2:01 pm #271455I don’t think we’re looking at a utility player here in the person of Thomas Saggese. We all recall how offensively challenged Winn was in his first year of play in the bigs. If I don’t say so myself, over the years I’ve been pretty fair at predicting what kind of careers young players are going to end up having…….and when I think of this, I cannot help thinking of the player whom I totally missed on…..and there haven’t been many. Steven Hill…….to this day I don’t know what derailed his career? Anyway, think Richie ( don’t call me “Dick” ) Zisk……..Saggese is offensively going to end up with very similar numbers to this ex-Pirate. He’s a keeper, gang.
November 9, 2024 at 9:36 am #271487PadsFS
ParticipantSaggese’s walk rate cratered at AAA which is what gives me the most pause. I think he’s done well in the AFL on that front with a 1:1 BB:K ratio
November 9, 2024 at 9:55 am #271489A prospect playing an up the middle position, C, SS, 2B, CF, needs to be strong defensively. A standout level player will be clearly above average defensively. So his offense vs advanced pitching is not the only question mark.
November 9, 2024 at 1:47 pm #271504bccran
Participant#6. Davis
November 9, 2024 at 4:13 pm #271510Fresh meat.
November 10, 2024 at 9:29 am #271526I think everyone has weighed in now so instead of calling this a few minutes late like last week, I’m going to call it a couple hours early. Saggese is our number 6 prospect.
1. Mathews
2. Werherholt
3. Hence
4. Crooks
5. McGreevey
6. SaggeseVoting is now open for #7.
I’m going with Hjerpe. I have tons of fear that he doesn’t stay healthy enough to have a good career. He is consistently dominant when he does pitch though as his funky delivery and movement gives hitters fits. He’s a near sure thing if he can stay healthy.
7. Hjerpe
November 10, 2024 at 10:17 am #271527#7 Chen-Wei Lin
6’7″ RHSP. Turns 23 this month.
2024 pitching line at Palm Beach:
22 starts, 116 IP, record 10-5, ERA 2.79, WHIP 1.043, BB/9 2.8, K/9 9.5
Last I knew, FB sits 95 hits 98, secondaries good but need continued development.
With a BB/9 of 2.8 in low A you don’t need video to figure he is not one of those lanky live arm types peppering the backstop with whiffle ball stuff. There is some video and I posted one of many I have saved. You can see he does not come straight over the top, so doesn’t get the downhill he might. Almost looks kind of short arm, which is odd considering how long his arms are. Not a sure thing, IMO, but I like the potential, and have him above guys who have had arm trouble. It is worth mentioning that he didn’t get an in season promotion last year, but he could do well in High A and be in AA at some point in 2025.
November 10, 2024 at 11:35 am #271530#7 Chase Davis
Recent first round pick who started to figure it out this past season.
November 10, 2024 at 11:39 am #271532#7 Leonardo Bernal
This organization is blessed with some very nice catchers. Someone is going to be trade bait in a year or two.
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