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February 3, 2024 at 9:17 pm #242405
I sincerely doubt that he’s traded. I think he either clears waivers and returns to Memphis or if he truly is bad now, then he’s released. Bling, you’re 2 for 2 now! I never had much hope for Zuniga. But there was always a chance he found some control. The only reason I didn’t pick him is I clearly don’t understand what they are doing with guys like Rivas and Kennedy.
February 3, 2024 at 9:38 pm #242406After last season, I do not think Zuniga has any value to us or anyone else. Given his results, I think he was hurt even when he wasn’t on the IL. I expect he is still hurt now. Even if he can answer the bell this spring, I don’t think Mo wants to waste any more innings on him when other guys need innings. Its too bad, but his body couldn’t take it.
February 4, 2024 at 11:54 am #242411I am not very good at these type of predictions but I will vote that he clears waivers and is assigned to Memphis. What is the harm in giving him a NRI to spring training and seeing what happens? They could always release him later.
February 4, 2024 at 12:55 pm #242413PadsFS
ParticipantZuniga got shut down in August if I remember correctly. Will he even be ready to pitch in spring training?
February 4, 2024 at 2:51 pm #242416I don’t know. If not then that is probably the reason he drew the short straw.
February 4, 2024 at 5:02 pm #242423I agree with gscottar. There is no good reason to release Zuniga now.
February 4, 2024 at 5:43 pm #242427Now that the pen has come into focus, I’ve been taking a look at it. If you line up the guys with their basic stats, two things leap out. One is the robust K/9 numbers, and the other is John King’s K/9 number. It sticks out like a sore thumb. He put up 4.8 K/9 last year, about half or less of the numbers I’m seeing otherwise.
Last year there was little choice, but this year there is a lot more choice. Not that he won’t make the cut, but he does stick out and not in a good way,
February 5, 2024 at 8:05 am #242433Continuing my focussed look at the pen, I wanted to get a sense of the pecking order and how the featured roles will parcel out. So I headed over to Cot’s to find out.
We have two $5 Million dollar relievers this year, Gallegos and Middleton. Helsley slots in behind them at 3+ and then Kittredge. That’s your core. So this is going to be interesting. Are we going to have a $5 Million 7th inning guy all year? Show of hands. Maybe two $5 Million 7th inning guys if a min wage guy emerges. (hint: he could emerge all he wants, he’s not pushing the money to middle relief) Or are we going to see some sort of continuous churn all year whilst the computer tries to sort out who should do what, when. Or is Mo going to turn all his hot new arms over to Ollie and Dusty to manage/mismanage? Show of hands on that. Anyone?
February 5, 2024 at 8:45 am #242435
jj-cf-stlParticipantKing will go as his BAbip goes, same as with last seasons difference, across two teams.
His BB/K of +8% K’s appears stable, but that GB% is his value, if he can maintain league average BAbip results.
February 5, 2024 at 9:24 am #242439
jj-cf-stlParticipantToday to win: Helsley, Middleton, Romero
Tommorrow to win: Gallegos, Kittredge, King
When behind: Fernandez, Robertson
Remaining churn has options.
February 5, 2024 at 10:45 am #242441One aspect King has going for him to make the opening day roster is that he makes more than the league minimum. Granted, his salary isn’t much above the league minimum but it might mean something to the penny pinchers in the front office.
February 5, 2024 at 12:28 pm #242444How many days in a row do you expect the algo to spit that out, jj? All the input factors are variable and will never lead to the same result over and over. We know that field staff is expected to utilyze the algospew forgame prep and for in game decisions. There is no way it will be as tidy as you imagine.
February 5, 2024 at 12:29 pm #242445Good catch gscottar. Indeed.
February 5, 2024 at 12:50 pm #242446
jj-cf-stlParticipantI don’t know about any algo bling. That’s how I view what they have.
February 5, 2024 at 1:02 pm #242447Well, I do to. I just don’t think that is what we will see. I don’t think it will be left up to Ollie and Dusty, and I don’t think whoever it is up to will come up with the same thing as you and I.
February 5, 2024 at 3:24 pm #242449
jj-cf-stlParticipantThis pen will be tested, often, with leads that need held and saved after 6 innings. A surprising amount.
February 5, 2024 at 4:31 pm #242451Lets hope the guys making the most money are pitching the best.
February 7, 2024 at 2:20 pm #242496The #STLCards announce that they have traded RHP Guillermo Zuñiga to the Los Angeles #Angels in exchange for cash considerations.
Zuñiga, who was with the Braves and Dodgers previously, pitched in two games with the Cards in ‘23 & struck out four hitters in two innings of work.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) February 7, 2024
February 7, 2024 at 4:02 pm #242499We all lost on the Zuniga prediction since no one said traded. I even “sincerely doubted” that he’d be traded since I was guessing Zuniga had even less value than Gomez and Gomez made it through waivers. I guess the Angels felt they really wanted him and Mo decided it was better to get something than nothing.
February 9, 2024 at 7:54 am #2425361982 willie
ParticipantWell the Cardinals are all about filling their vault of cash so seemed like a normal move for them.
February 9, 2024 at 8:38 am #242538There are more pitchers than innings, so some of them have to go.
February 9, 2024 at 8:59 am #242540“Have to go” to Memphis, that is. Other guys will get shaved off the bottom, not the guys realistically competing for jobs with St. Louis.
February 9, 2024 at 10:40 am #242544The rule 5 guy will most likely be heading back to his former team
February 11, 2024 at 1:37 pm #242601bccran
ParticipantHelsley
Gallegos
Middleton
Kittredge
Romero
Pallante
Liberatore
KingLook about right?
February 11, 2024 at 2:24 pm #242604I would say Fernandez, the Rule 5 guy, instead of either King or Pallante. I would give Pallante the edge over King due to swing man versatility. Ovbiously, if Fernandez stinks in ST it would not happen.
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