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As a FA-to-be, Goldy needs to play at a Q-offer level in his platform season. If STL becomes buyers he’s likey postseason bound. Best case for all.
If they sell, he’s likely traded and can’t be tagged, which helps his free agency. From Paul’s perspective, postseason play may be a priority, while finishing his career.
This could also be Paul not interested in an extension here at this time. “We’re going to wait” is good can-kicking PR, if you’ve been snubbed.
Could be jj but my guess is that it is the Cardinals who intitiated the waiting until they get clarification on revenue streams.
The TV revenue concerns were well known long before the extension rumors. Something changed. Glad it did.
The TV revenue concerns were well known long before the extension rumors. Something changed. Glad it did.
We also went from “going to spend what we intended to spend last year” to “we will see”. I am sure they are checking the ticket renewal count every hour.
If Goldy wants to play in a WS before he’s done, he will need to get out ASAP.
Or not go 0 for 7 in a NL playoff series.
Sill not signed:
Bellinger (5.9 WAR)
Chapman (7.6 WAR)
Snell (7.7 WAR)
Montgomery (7.0 WAR)And just to name a few more notable free agents still not signed: Hader, Hoskins, Rosario, Pederson
Boras should be about ready to start screaming ‘Collusion! Collusion!’.
On Goldschmidt, there’s also the possibility that Goldschmidt wants three years and $70M-$75M, and the Cardinals only want to offer two years and something like $35M-$40M. The Dodgers would probably be happy to give Goldschmidt the 3yrs/$75M, and Goldy knows it.
Anyone could use Goldschmidt. He’d make a great DH and it would help the Cardinals with their bottom line.
Paul would need 3.1 war per season, which he did last season.
Jordan would need to avg 1.4 war per season, and has accumulated 1.6 war for his career.
The Cardinals need to shuffle the deck. Not extending Goldy would be a place to start, IF they use the money on upgrades. We all know we probably are going to need to buy another SP in 2025. It would relieve a lot of the awkwardness of the current roster.
The FO may have been looking for a team friendly extension, testing the waters, due diligence, yada, yada.
Paul is in the same situation Monty was, and he too, should bet on himself.
The Cardinals are shuffling the deck with Walker, Gorman, Winn, Nootbaar, Donovan, etc. And with trading for Saggese, Roby, etc. from the outside.
It’s Goldschmidt that doesn’t want an extension. He wants to go out and get some real money from a team that has a chance to win the WS. He knows that will never happen in St. Louis.
Nathan – Paul will have earned just short of $150 million at the end of the 2024 season. I doubt if he and Amy are worried about maximizing his next contract. They’re not that kind of people, anyway.
How much did Albert make as a Cardinal before he went to LA? It was over $100 million. He and DeeDee were highly active with charities and were very devout.
As Lance Berkman once wisely said (from a point of direct knowledge), “No matter what they say, it is always about the money.” (As an aside, I chuckled to myself all weekend as it was celebrated over and over how much the three new starters all wanted to be Cardinals.)
Goldy is a great guy by everyone’s report. But that doesn’t mean he will give the Cardinals a “hometown discount” or let them make him feel disrespected (like Albert felt).
My personal opinion is that if enough of the young guys break out offensively in 2024, the Cardinals may decide not to spend the money in 2025 and beyond. If he was a career Cardinal with rings like Yadi and Waino, I don’t think they would let him go.
I’m all for extending Goldschmidt. It would keep the infield stabilized for the next 3-4 years, it would mean we have a top tier first baseman secured for the next 3-4 years, and it would send a positive message to Arenado, and others.
On the other hand, times have changed. The economy is not what it used to be, and the 2023 losing season made matters worse. I have a friend that owns a business and has for years bought season tickets and given them away to his customers. Last year he couldn’t give out all the tickets he had. I don’t know if he’s going to buy season tickets again.
From a fan’s perspective, even if you get a free ticket, it still costs $11 for a beer and $10 for a plate of corn chips.So maybe it doesn’t make sense for the Cardinals to extend Goldschmidt given the millions of dollars of payroll that it would cost. And if they don’t extend him, then they probably would trade him at some point during the 2024 season. Donovan would probably take over first base with Baker getting some AB’s. The Cardinals would be looking at Arenado’s contract next. So there’s something of a snowball effect.
Not arguing with your points, mud. I just want to add an important factor. Goldy cannot be traded unless he agrees. He may not want to get shipped to Toronto, for example, for a couple of months before having to potentially move again over the winter. Then again, maybe it wouldn’t bother him (or Amy). 😉
Arenado (and Contreras until 2027) can also not be traded without their consent. It is a tricky subject as these are people, not just contracts written on sheets of paper.
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