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May 25, 2023 at 7:25 am #222004
6:10 p.m.
LHP Matthew Liberatore () vs. RHP Shane Bieber (3-3, 3.08)
BSM // KMOX
(and Bally Sports South/Southwest Extra)May 25, 2023 at 10:06 pm #222104Fixing to find out what Liberatore is made of over the next 4-5 weeks.
Mikolas seems to have righted the ship.
Montgomery is nothing like the pitcher he was last year after coming over.
Jack ‘the mouth’ Flaherty is a mess
Woodford earned his shot then blew it.
Wainwright gave all he had but time has finally caught up to him.
Mo really needs to bring in 3 starters at the deadline and hope 2 perform…Is getting 3 realistic or is it likely to be 1 or 2 via trade and a couple more from dumpster diving and praying you can squeeze one more decent half year out of an over the hill veteran?
May 25, 2023 at 10:09 pm #222106Why doesn’t Montgomery throw more curve balls? When he came over last year the Cards had him throwing more fastballs and it’s not working out this year. He’s a two pitch pitcher for the most part. He needs to throw the curve more since hitters are sitting on his straight stuff.
And there you have it!
r/Esteemed Rat
May 26, 2023 at 9:11 am #222118The Guardians have their best pitcher going tonight. I would sure like to see this guy in a Cardinal uniform by August 1 but it probably won’t happen.
May 26, 2023 at 9:12 am #222119Libby took down Burnes…next up Bieber. Here’s hoping he keeps pitching confidently and we take game 1.
May 26, 2023 at 9:20 am #222121Pallante, Hicks and Helsley should be available. Cabrera and Stratton went Wednesday. Gallegos and Verhagen each did 21 pitches Thursday.
May 26, 2023 at 10:23 am #22212414NyquisTParticipantKnizner is batting .272 in May…. Contreras .170. Pick your poison.
May 26, 2023 at 10:32 am #222125Knizner. I did not like the Contreras signing. Wish 87.5M were allocated somewhere else.
May 26, 2023 at 11:10 am #222129I genuinely couldn’t remember the name of the Cleveland team and had to look it up, but I’m just going to go with the name Indians because I like it better. I may or may not have touched on this in the past, but I sure hope that the name Cardinals or Redbirds is never deemed to be disparaging or offensive to that particular species of birds simply because I can’t imagine myself sitting in the cheap seats and loudly yelling at the top of my lungs, “GO ARCHIES!”
May 26, 2023 at 11:18 am #222130bccranParticipantI wonder if Mo is in Cleveland this weekend and can talk face to face with Mike Chernoff about Bieber.
May 26, 2023 at 11:36 am #222131What’s for din din today everybody?
Mine is going to be a trip out to the Amish restaurant north of town called Lakeview. Catfish fiddlers, mashed potatoes/gravy, green beans, noodles, dressing, sweet tea, a piece of strawberry pie and some soft serve vanilla ice cream. Yum yum!
Contreras is, what, down in the .220s now? He needs to turn it around. Arenado needs to put the bad series in Cincinnati behind him.
r/Esteemed Rat
May 26, 2023 at 11:46 am #222133We go the wrong Contreras
May 26, 2023 at 11:51 am #222135Yeah, he’s at .228 and if that BA continues to sink he’ll be down there feeding off the murky bottom with those catfish…He does have 25 RBI’s though, so at least he’s generated some production in the form of pushing a few runs across. If Nado and Goldy could begin to rip it in tandem we might be able to quickly make up some ground.
May 26, 2023 at 11:56 am #222137Din din at House of Bling will be jumbo chili dogs and some fixins. Desert will be watermelon. I’ll probably have a grape Nehi.
Contreras hasn’t done much with the stick. OPS+ 90. Just to cheer us up, Sean Murphy’s OPS+ is 149.
May 26, 2023 at 1:09 pm #222139Hey bling? Where do you get your grape Nehi? Always loved those in bottles!
May 26, 2023 at 1:45 pm #222140I’ll have to ask Lady Bling, Rat.
May 26, 2023 at 2:02 pm #2221411. Lars Nootbaar (L) CF
2. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
3. Nolan Gorman (L) DH
4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Brendan Donovan (L) RF
7. Paul DeJong (R) SS
8. Alec Burleson (L) LF
9. Tommy Edman (S) 2BMay 26, 2023 at 2:35 pm #2221421982 willieParticipantAt the end of the day, our pitching has to get better if we are serious about playoffs. How that comes about I don’t know. Trades or within but that’s it. Our hitting will be fine. Maybe inconsistent at times and probably will have some defensive problems here or there but to me, better pitching or better pitchers is the key.
May 26, 2023 at 2:55 pm #222145I wonder if Mo is in Cleveland this weekend and can talk face to face with Mike Chernoff about Bieber.
He needs to be. The Guardians could use some offense. We can supply them with several OF/DH types.
May 26, 2023 at 3:01 pm #222146Only 5 more games left in this 19 in a row marathon stretch. I had a bad feeling about that many consecutive games before the season even began, but the Cardinals have done well thus far at 10-4 and they’ve undoubtedly played better than at any other point this season since beginning the 19 games in a row at Fenway. At any rate, 5 more games and no rest for the weary until after 2 at home vs. KC next week.
May 26, 2023 at 3:06 pm #222147How about this for a genius idea. Mo and BDW should come up with a significant incentive package if the boys can thrash Bieber real good. Knock him out in the 2nd or 3rd, then Mo swoops in and offers to take the chump off Chernoff’s hands. Knock the price down, then work the deal.
May 26, 2023 at 3:13 pm #222148I still think Cody Bellinger would have looked really good hitting between Goldschmidt and Arenado. I don’t know why we didn’t pursue him in the off-season. He could have solved our CF problem as well. But then again, what do I know? I mean, after all, I’ve only won how many world championships in Strat-O-Matic!
r/Esteemed Rat
May 26, 2023 at 3:14 pm #222149Jim Thome, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle, Eddie Murray, Carlos Baerga, and Kenny Lofton…If Matthew would have been a 23 year old Big League SP’er in ’95, he might have had to face all 6 of those guys 3 or 4 times tonight in Cleveland. I don’t know how any AL pitchers survived that onslaught.
May 26, 2023 at 3:17 pm #222150Taking a gander at the out-of-town scoreboard at the moment:
The Reds lead the Cubs 7-0 at Wrigley Field.
San Francisco and Milwaukee are scoreless in the top of the 1st at Miller Park.
The Pirates and Mariners are 0-0 in the top of the first out west at the Kingdome.
r/Esteemed Rat
May 26, 2023 at 3:35 pm #222152I just noticed that Bieber was touched up for 31 HR’s in ’19, which was a season in which he went 15-8 along with a real nice 3.28 ERA. That’s a heck of a lot of taters to serve up and still be able to somehow put those two nice sets of numbers into the books. Highly unusual.
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