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Since our esteemed front office has now decided that our $87M catcher can’t catch I wonder if he can pitch? He seems to have a strong arm and they like guys who can light up the radar gun.
Since our esteemed front office has now decided that our $87M catcher can’t catch I wonder if he can pitch? He seems to have a strong arm and they like guys who can light up the radar gun.
They aren’t saying he can’t catch. What they are telling people is that he can’t catch for a couple weeks. Lol
Our LF on defense is a black hole. So which player can we put out there that can be league average defensively and possibly hit over a .700 ops? Lol we ain’t asking for much here.
Idk what to do but firing a couple a guy’s seems like the move here first. Getting rid of some players is a close 2nd.
The pine tar rattle can thing is certainly a very good possibility, Bling, but the intensity of the current hoodoo is such that I have to conclude that there are countless contributing factors. I genuinely believe it would be possible for them to lose a game on an off day. It’s terrifying…
Of course it’s the move, booyah. It’s always been the first move and will continue to be. The Phillies cashiered Girardi last season. That’s one of the many reasons I’m so astounded that a nobody like this guy’s been allowed to stick around and continue to dig this team deeper into the ditch that he’s already placed them in. The entire human language doesn’t contain the words to illustrate how bad this guy is.
1td, everyone here knows that you are desperate for Marmol to be fired. That is fine since heads should roll for this kind of performance. But do you think there are any other things the organization should do other than that one firing?
Marmol didn’t assemble this roster nor spend the last 3 years playing with fire. I don’t really like him as a manager – didn’t really like the hire but there is plenty of blame to go around for this implosion.
At this point there’s no need to fire him. There is no manager out there that would have done much better with this group. 2-3 more wins tops even with a HoF manager.
What needs to happen is to can the GM let whoever be interim then go get the guy you want to build your team. You may have to wait for him as he’s probably already employed.
You get your GM and then he hires the manager he wants and they hire the coaches they want.
In the meantime you just meander through this year and yeah, probably next year as well.
Once you have your GM you let him unload any talent with a pulse and stockpile minor league talent that is 1-3 years away. You suck and get some high draft picks although baseball is not a sport you can rebuild quickly with through the draft – draft picks – even good ones take 3-5 years to hit the majors if they ever do.
So you stink for 2 years, build for 2 years and maybe by year five you have something good AND sustainable,
The Astros did it and they were good for years. Still may be pretty good – don’t know about this year yet.
The Cubs did it but couldn’t keep it rolling year over year like the Astros have.
I was for making a change in the dugout when I still thought this team might do something. They won’t so what’s the point? May as well let Marmol absorb all the losses this year. Skippy thought he was a special snowflake when he won the division in his rookie year – this year he may learn some humility.
I didn’t see any post game, but i assume Oli didn’t trash Arenado for the 10th inning basepath nonsense like he did O’Neill.
Nah it was just your boiler plate let’s stick together rah rah stuff. Basically just reading the script he was given by his overlords.
Haha!…Well, I wasn’t at all aware that you speak for everyone here, gscottar, but if everyone here indeed knows that I’m desperate for the Redbird manager to be fired, then everyone here would be wrong regarding their conclusion. I’d say that the only degree of desperation I’m currently undergoing is the hope that the grease fittings in my lower back hold sway and don’t scatter in the face of the 2 cubic yards of potting mix that I happily shoveled from the cargo bed of my truck and onto the surface of numerous areas of our humble little yard to raise the grade in Mrs. 1TD’s flower beds…But yeah, he should have been sacked at least a week ago. The first step, as always, is to cashier the field manager. Especially this one. Regarding your question, if the performance (W/L record) of the team doesn’t improve within a reasonable number of games, which in my estimation would be 30 to 40, it’s time to take further action that could undoubtedly include replacing other members of the coaching staff, players etc. In any event, I’m reasonably certain that no one at all who possesses the overall temperament of the current Cardinal field manager could ever instill in myself the slightest degree of anything that could be termed desperation.
I keep saying this, so here goes – again:
Pirates down 7-0 to Toronto at Forbes Field
Reds losing 3-1 to the White Sox at Crosley Field
Brewers losing early 1-0 to the Giants at Candlestick – UPDATE: Make that 3-0 Giants in the 3rd.
Cubs had a big 8th inning and downed Miami 4-2.
Maybe, once again, we won’t lose any ground.
1td, cashiering the manager sounds simple enough but if that is all it takes then you must have more confidence in the geniuses upstairs than I do.
In light of his team’s 10 -24 W/L record, the key sentence uttered by the Redbird field manager during the post-game presser was as follows…”Our job as a staff is to stay consistent.” Think about that statement.
Well, you and I both know that they’re not going anywhere any time soon, which is the sole reason I didn’t mention them. It’s useless to do so, gscottar.
I agree with that. Only BDW can make changes in the front office and he hasn’t shown much interest in that since Jocketty got the pink slip.
Thanks, Rats. That’s good news. If this team had been playing .500 baseball for only a week or so, they’d only be 6 or 7 back. I don’t know if that fact could be termed bad news, but it’s certianly sad to think about.
Yeah, it’s not at all unlike a read ’em and weep condition in that area. At any rate, if that’s not going to change, what else can you do but fire the manager? It’s what happens with all teams when they struggle in this manner for this long. Even if it’s a shot in the dark, (and I don’t feel it is) it’s high time to squeeze the proverbial trigger.
Firing the manager is inevitable at this point but IMO it won’t do much good! They’ll just name another mouth piece like McEwimg as interim! The people who need to go are the people above the manager like Mo! Fire him and hire someone for the Tampa Bay org. They seem to be really good at doing a lot with an owner who won’t pay much money!
I think even if they hired you or me it would get better! It can’t get any worse! It is hard at this time of year to get someone outside the Org so we are kinda stuck there! If it were me within the Org I would like Oquendo, Molina or McGee in that order! I have a feeling a lot of this pitching problem is because Yadi is not there! That may not make a lot so sense but I believed it so I think we need him on the bench in some capacity!
I am afraid you are correct bling. A manager worth his salt is not going to jump on board to be just a yes man. We will go internal again.
I’d say right now the high end to hope for would be to be able to play at a pace at or near .500 for 30 to 40 games and hope to arrive at a stretch thereafter in which to reel off a nice couple of weeks of baseball in order to appear that there may be a chance to sneak in as a WC or possibly even win a weak division. As for who’s to replace the current manager, at this juncture you simply have to change gears. I don’t think it’s too important which one is found so long as it’s not reverse and that’s the only one the gearbox contains at the moment. Many times, and as recently as last season, a managerial change has provided an impetus for turning a team around and propelling them into the post-season providing the change isn’t forestalled until it’s too late. And it’s not too late. Not yet.
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