2021 Cardinals MLB Game 17 thread – Tue, April 20 at Nationals

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  • #158528
    Brian Walton
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    6:05 p.m.
    RHP Adam Wainwright (0-2, 7.11) vs. LHP Patrick Corbin (0-2, 21.32)
    BSM // KMOX

    #158638
    blingboy
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    The takeaway from yesterday is if you are going to hit a laser beam right at somebody, hit it at a fan in the bleachers.

    #158642
    stlcard25
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    Don’t look now, but the Cards are tied with the Braves for the most HRs in the majors right now. They could stand to spread the dingers out a bit, for sure, but it’s nice to see some power from the team after last year’s outage.

    #158643
    stlcard25
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    Also, we really need Waino to give us some innings tonight. The bullpen got a little break with Jack going 6 last night and only needing Cabrera and Ponce. But another 6-7 inning outing would be nice.

    #158657
    stlcard25
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    Updated OPS+:

    Edman 123
    Goldy 97
    Arenado 132
    Yadi 156
    Carlson 156
    Dejong 120
    Carp 21
    Williams 103

    Dean 121
    Nogowski -11
    Knizner 113
    Sosa 87

    Team: 102

    #158674
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    Instead of all these new terms like OPS+ and GFJ and WR+C and BAFID why dont we post really important stats? Like batting average. That’s all I need to see.

    And lunch today was Kentucky Fried Chicken. Three piece dinner with mashed potatoes/gravy and green beans. Then I had a piece of white devil’s food cake with strawberry glaze and strawberries on top. Along with a MinuteMaid lemonade. And me and Whitey will be on the couch for this one tonight, along with a big cigar – or two.

    r/Esteemed Rat

    #158675
    stlcard25
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    Batting average is not important. That’s why I don’t post it.

    #158676
    Cardinal in France
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    Of course batting average is important, certainly as important as some of these alphabet soup concoctions. Other stats can fill in a lot of gaps and give a fuller picture, but to reject BA as “unimportant” is nonsense.

    #158677
    stlcard25
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    Sorry, CiF, I probably should have put it in a sarcasm font (if we had that) I feel like it’s sort of a well known thing that Rats only cares about batting average. Well, and strikeouts. He takes a bit of a ribbing for it.

    #158680
    bicyclemike
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    Personally I like OPS+ a lot, as you can see what a hitter is doing relative to the league. Batting average would be okay with me, if accompanied by the league-wide average. But OPS+ brings the power part into the metric.

    Now given all that, here is my basic batting order vs righty and lefty using the lineup Shildt mostly runs out there. I wish the manager would take these orders in to consideration.

    vs righty:

    Edman
    Williams
    Arenado
    Goldschmidt
    Carlson
    Molina
    DeJong
    Carpenter

    vs lefty:

    Edman
    Carlson
    Arenado
    Goldschmidt
    Molina
    DeJong
    Williams
    Carpenter

    #158681
    blingboy
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    1. Tommy Edman (S) 2B

    2. P. Goldschmidt (R) 1B

    3. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B

    4. Yadier Molina (R) C

    5. Dylan Carlson (S) CF

    6. Paul DeJong (R) SS

    7. Austin Dean (R) LF

    8. J. Williams (L) RF

    9. A. Wainwright (R) P

    #158687
    bicyclemike
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    Just saw that Soto have been placed on the IL.

    #158688
    stlcard25
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    The Cards get a couple of 2 out singles in the 1st and ended up with men on 2nd and 3rd, but Carlson grounds out to end the threat.

    #158689
    TexasCard
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    Name the last Cardinals player to have 0 for a jersey number.

    #158691
    stlcard25
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    I had to look up the 0s so I will excuse myself from guessing.

    Cards have kept it 0-0 despite Waino having a little trouble in the 2nd.

    #158692
    stlcard25
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    Corbin seems to have put his awful first two starts behind him tonight. The Cards have gotten some base hits, but not able to push any runs across.

    #158693
    TexasCard
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    That was Corbin’s best inning. Hopefully Wainwright can keep matching the 0s on the scoreboard until the bats catch up with Corbin.

    #158694
    stlcard25
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    A bad luck infield single and then a liner to left and Waino is in some trouble. Now he manages to get the double play ball from Turner. Hits Bell.

    #158695
    stlcard25
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    Waino rears back and Ks Schwarber on a 92 mph fastball tailing back to catch the edge. Nice work to get out of the jam.

    #158696
    TexasCard
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    Great job by the vet!

    #158697
    colhusker
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    Wasn’t the Nats pitcher’s ERA over 20 coming into tonight?

    #158698
    TexasCard
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    Seven pitch innings are awesome. Come on bats let’s get going here.

    #158699
    stlcard25
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    Nice fast inning for Waino in the 5th. 7 pitches.

    #158701
    stlcard25
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    Waino was filthy in the Nats part of the 5th. What was that, 8 pitches? 2 Ks and a grounder. Corbin is matching him and looks locked in as well. Hopefully the offense can get some hits off Patrick and get to that soft Nats bullpen.

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    Here we go. Third time through the order. Nice hustle Tommy!

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