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December 12, 2018 at 2:48 am #77097
I would rather have kept Wisdom. I sure hope this isn’t their current LHH addition and future LHP addition. I will be sorely disappointed.
.December 12, 2018 at 3:38 am #77098Why trade because a hitter is left handed? If that is the basis, it makes no sense.
December 12, 2018 at 5:47 am #77099this trade was a stupid one, looks like a move to make a move just because the guy is left handed….
December 12, 2018 at 7:09 am #77104I added a paragraph to the article as I realized the LHH problem is at Memphis, too. The only ones now are Schrock, who could be gone tomorrow, Williams and the switch-hitting Edman.
December 12, 2018 at 7:22 am #77106bccran
ParticipantSome pretty good LH bats on the way with Williams, Gorman, Capel,
Carlson (switch), Machado, Schrock, etc. – but still aways away.December 12, 2018 at 8:33 am #77116Looks like a depth trade IMHO.Like Brian says-Robinson likely on the Memphis shuttle as needed.Oganizational guy.Every team has some of those that stick around the fringes of the Roster.
December 12, 2018 at 9:18 am #77121I’ll never understand why hitting .220 left handed is somehow better than hitting .260 right handed.
December 12, 2018 at 9:35 am #77122
jj-cf-stlParticipantWe look at his numbers but the org played against Drew in the PCL.
See a guy enough you know whether or not you’d want him.
December 12, 2018 at 9:50 am #77123No need to overreact to this trade. Robinson will probably spend more time in Memphis than St. Louis. I liked Wisdom a lot but he was never going to get a real shot here.
It appears we are still on the lookout for a LH bench bat.
December 12, 2018 at 10:20 am #77139
stlcard25ParticipantWisdom only had one year that he really looked like more than a .230 type hitter, and that was 2018 in a loaded Memphis lineup. Going forward, I’d bet this trade turns out evenly or with the Cards slightly ahead.
December 12, 2018 at 10:44 am #77151Re: Edman v Sosa v Urias
Sosa/Urias both have 40-man spots, but it’s also noteworthy that Edman will be Rule 5 eligible after the season, so he will require a spot next offseason. Edman also brings an element that the other two don’t. Sosa/Urias combined for 11 SB, Edman stole 30.
Comparing the splits (2018):
v. LHP
Edman: .331/.385/.438 (.823 OPS)
Sosa: .236/.284/.398 (.682 OPS)
Urias: .385/.437/.662 (1.098 OPS)v. RHP
Edman: .291/.344/.389 (.733 OPS)
Sosa: .281/.325/.426 (.751 OPS)
Urias: .278/.335/.478 (.812 OPS)Small sample size, but in ~125 PA v RHP in AAA, Urias posted a .632 OPS. He did damage v LHP/RHP in AA, but seemed to struggle against RHP in AAA. Again, small sample, so not necessarily indicative of anything.
December 12, 2018 at 10:57 am #77153Meanwhile the Cardinals still don’t have a backup catcher and there’s only 1 catcher on the entire 40-man roster which is full.
December 12, 2018 at 11:03 am #77155After further review, Robinson may have some value against RH pitching. Though his major league numbers are bad, he has killed RH pitching in the minors the last few years.
December 12, 2018 at 11:13 am #77161Meanwhile the Cardinals still don’t have a backup catcher and there’s only 1 catcher on the entire 40-man roster which is full.
Yeah, but I would think the Cards could pass Meisinger through waivers once they add a 41st.
December 12, 2018 at 12:03 pm #77171PadsFS
ParticipantThey can wait and add a catcher once spring training starts and the 40-man has the ability to put players on the 60-man DL.
December 12, 2018 at 12:56 pm #7717814NyquisT
ParticipantMolina told Mo that the team needs only one catcher. No competition for playing time.
December 12, 2018 at 1:01 pm #77180I thought opening day was March 28 instead of December 28. Why the panic?
December 12, 2018 at 1:59 pm #77192No panic. It’s that the 40 man remains a mess and when they have addressed the mess they make it a bigger mess.
December 12, 2018 at 3:49 pm #77218I am confused, BHC. All they did was trade one 40-man player for another. That changed nothing other than the name on the page. It is no more or no less of a mess than it was on Monday.
December 14, 2018 at 2:13 pm #77537Daniel Descalso indeed the #Cubs first choice as a super utility player but they just don’t know whether they can afford him in their budget with Descalso also on #Stlcards radar. https://t.co/xRhm6FXK78
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 14, 2018
December 14, 2018 at 2:20 pm #77538Ian Kinsler just got 2 yrs 8 million total from SD.I would expect Descalso to be a bit cheaper.
December 14, 2018 at 2:27 pm #77539Ideal scenario: The Cards bid the Cubs up on Descalso and finish second.
Not ideal result: Fans, in love with former Cardinals, revolt over “cheap ownership”, uncaring that there are better players than Descalso available.
December 14, 2018 at 2:29 pm #77540Brian- I remember you saying you hoped the Cards aimed higher than Descalso.I hope Cards can make Cubbies overpay for DD.
December 14, 2018 at 4:28 pm #77565Descalso may not be the same player he was when he was here. Had a pretty good 2018.
Having said that, I’m still surprised the Cubs dumped LaStella for peanuts. Pretty good pinch hitter.
December 14, 2018 at 5:19 pm #77577Descalso had a 2018 season at the age of 31 that was 20 percent better than his career average and the only year in his career that he was an above-average hitter (106 OPS+). I could get behind it if more of the 2018 guy is ahead, not the below-average hitting 2010-2017 guy. Maybe he figured out launch angle or something. I just am naturally skeptical of signing guys based on one abnormal year.
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