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    Cardinals aren’t linked to any of MLB Pipeline’s Top 30 International Prospects. However, I’m still excited to see what players Mo and the team can scrape off the sides and bottom of the barrel.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/international-prospect-signings-july-2-2019?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

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    Baseball America has the Cardinals linked to a kid named Jeremy Rivas. They’ll probably update throughout the day. I don’t expect a lot of action from the Cardinals considering they’re not linked to any of the top players.

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2019-mlb-international-signings-tracker/#Cardinals

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    I would be fairly surprised if the Cards are quiet this J2 period, since they’re actually allowed to spend their money now. Of course, maybe they don’t think much of the players available but that would also be a surprise.

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    They’ve got the money but all the high bonus guys are already staked to other teams. Reportedly the Cardinals made a big offer for Jasson Dominguez but he signed with the Yankees for just over $5 million.

    The thing with the international signing period is many of these kids already have agreements with MLB teams since they were 13-14 years old.

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    Yeah, I read that they were interested in Dominguez, too. Hard to overcome the lifelong fandom when the money is about the same.

    BHC, it’s probably not a secret that scouting internationally is well behind the curve of domestic scouting. A question for you (or anyone else I guess)…how far behind is it? You think it’s similar to US scouting 10 years ago in terms of resources and eyes on these guys? 20? 50 years ago?

    It does seem like more slip through the cracks internationally than in the US to sign for small bonuses, and a more of the top international prospects don’t pan out than the US guys. Or at least that’s my perception.

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    My biggest question is why don’t the Cardinals get more involved in the top end international talent? We are missing out on some quality talent.

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    This is not the most positive review on the Cardinals international scouting.

    “People are afraid of missing out on talent,” Rodriguez said. “You don’t want to miss out on the next big thing.”

    Changing landscape, competition forcing Cardinals international scouts to evaluate players as young as 13 years old

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    The firm of the right-labourer Juan Gerardo Salas,🙌🤩

    Originally from Caderyta, Nuevo León becomes part of the ranks of @cardenales of St. Louis; graduated from the Acereros de Monclova development system at the Gerardo Benavides Luna Academy💪⚾

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    My biggest question is why don’t the Cardinals get more involved in the top end international talent? We are missing out on some quality talent.

    Good question Forsch. I have asked the same question and the answer is usually something like “its complicated.”

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    Forsch and gscottar, if you haven’t read the Rob Rains article I posted above I suggest you do so because it addresses you’re questions.

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    At first glance, the Yankees have exceeded their pool on 2 players. Perhaps they traded for cap room like they did for Voit? What if you don’t use all of last years spending allotment, or trade space? It surely can’t be carried over.

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    Baseball America had the names earlier in their tracker but here’s an MLB article about the rumored pair from Venezuela.

    https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/cardinals-international-signings

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    Forsch and gscottar, if you haven’t read the Rob Rains article I posted above I suggest you do so because it addresses you’re questions.

    That article is interesting but the bottom line is the Cardinals play by the same rules as everyone else.

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    That article is interesting but the bottom line is the Cardinals play by the same rules as everyone else.

    Which is why certain people in the Cardinals organization want the rules to change.

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    It appears the Cubs have signed two players rated in the Top 10. This is how teams restock their farm system when they have to draft low in the domestic draft.

    From MLB Trade Rumors:

    Ronnier Quintero, C, Cubs: Occupying the #6 spot on the boards of both Fangraphs and MLB.com, Quintero will follow Willson Contreras from Venezuela to the Chicago organization. The Cubbies also have a deal with fellow top-ten-ish prospect Kevin Made, a shortstop. Sanchez puts the Quintero deal at $3MM and Made’s mark at $1.7MM. Another Venezuelan backstop, Brayan Altuve, will cost the Cubs another million bucks, seemingly setting up the organization for a search for some added pool money.

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    Nunez was not a top 30 international prospect. Neither was Oscar Taveras.

    P.S. I’d love it too if the Cards got a bunch the top guys, but the uncertainty level with these 16-year olds is extremely high.

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    We shoot for one diamond per decade out of the rough!

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    I understand that there are diamonds that can be found from the non-elite. However, there are teams like the Cubs, Braves, Yankees and Rangers that seem to always come up with international signings.

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    Definitely under the old rules, the Cards were conservative in their spending. The one year they overspent, they haven’t got much from it yet. I wonder if the foothold those other teams got when the limits were not as firm helped them establish better relationships and a better reputation.

    The bottom line is how many of these young men make the majors and become contributors. The Cards are surely nowhere near the top as they were in drafting domestically.

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    What happened to Yolbert Sanchez? I don’t se him on any top 30 lists, or see that he signed.

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    Seeing another Tatis kid sign with the White Sox irks me. Gotta admit I can’t be positive about that. The kids’ father once played for the Cardinals and we don’t even manage to recruit/scout the children?

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    Were we ever in the Tatis Jr mix? Seems like that would have the year of our overspending, 2016. BUt I don’t remember anyone but the Padres being linked to him.

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