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Gyorko looked a little peaked when coming to the plate. I am sure they have way better info than me. It is just a very long distant observation he did not look right.
Now 2011seemsforever in house! This is like All-Star poster game here today….minus yours truly of course. Next thing you know, MagnoliaCardinal, Nathan or DizzyDean17 is going to waltz in here today.
Only thing that could make this not a total loss would be Marp getting the 7th straight game with a dinger.
He just missed getting the meat of the bat on it, NJ, or your 7-5 would have been a happening thing.
Cards drop the game 7-2 and series 3-2. The record is 50-49 and the Cubs’ lead is 8 1/2 games. Pittsburgh won, so St. Louis is now in fourth place in the division.
Boy I hate that franchise and their fans….and that wimpy “Go cubs Go” song they bellow out after each win in Wrigley. It’s going to make my season to see those chaps go down in post season play.
another series loss. Disappointing but honestly with our pen coming in…. in the 6th, is anyone that surprised we lost this game?
for us to win, we’re going to need to score 8 runs a game on average.
Optimism coming out of Pittsburgh, a team that dumped its best hitter and best pitcher before the season and still have a better record than the Cardinals.
(For those who are anti-The Athletic, you can skip over this post.)
"Every team in front of us has its flaws. We’re not out of it, for sure.”
With his team in the midst of a nine-game winning streak, should Neal Huntington buy, sell or stand pat at the trade deadline?
From @RobBiertempfel:https://t.co/nEDi09vs0z
— The Athletic Pittsburgh (@TheAthleticPGH) July 22, 2018
Should the journalists finally realize soon that the problem has not been with the manager(s), but with the players?
I don’t think anybody blamed all on the managers. Of course the players shoulder the highest percentage of blame or accountability. There is also another percentage going to front office. But the fact remains the managers also have responsibility for the performance. The managers usage and decision making with the roster has been poor and and as such the first step for the fix started with the manager. Much more to be done but removing the manager is a sound first step.
That’s interesting. I thought the constant bashing of MM by a poster posting awful personal stuff by Bernie, a piece by a journalist who ranked him #30 (which had to be countered by another poster), never saying a single word nice about the man, etc. was an example over a significant period time of not being able to let it go. I may be wrong (I often am, and can admit it) but it seems to cut both ways. Moving on….
I think Matheny was complete garbage but the one thing I always gave him credit for was being a players coach. Most of the players seemed to like him.
The roster construction is on Dewitt and Bowtie but we all know Matheny had issues as a manager. Lot’s of them and it cost this team a few games over the years.
cranny,
The board doesn’t have a PM feature, as you know. So the following goes here.
Your refusal to actually move on from Matheny’s firing is getting on my last nerve. As my now grown children can tell you, that is a very bad thing.
Other posters are allowed to dislike Matheny’s management style and want him gone without posting what a fine person he is. My father was the finest person I’ve ever known but that doesn’t mean I would want him managing the Cardinals.
As far as journalists go, having spent a decade in NYC and experiencing their newspaper writers, most Cardinals fans have little concept of what hard-hitting, in-your-face journalism actually is. I like how those covering the Cardinals do it and simply don’t read what I don’t choose to read. I certainly don’t expect them to change their coverage to suit me. The late Joe Strauss was way too snarky and superior for my tastes. Didn’t read him. I think Bernie is a human wind-sock and fancies himself as St Louis’ Mike Lupica. (He isn’t). Read him on occasion because I still think he raises some thought-provoking issues but mainly leave him alone.
As far as the article in The Athletic with the Matheny, Pham and Norris QUOTES in it goes, Goold stated in his Q&A that MM’s comments were made in public, in front of several media, including Goold. He said that those comments were open to interpretation and it didn’t mean any one interpretation was the absolute answer – including his interpretation.
This board tries it’s best to present a balanced, professional product and leave it up to the reader to process it as they see fit. In those areas where discernment and judgment are required, it presumes the reader is capable of that themselves.
You aren’t going to find any mea culpas here, not unless an error is made. Error, not the disseminating of other journalists/writers’ work on Cardinal- and baseball-related matters.
Matheny is gone. Not likely to be back as the St Louis manager. It’s done.
DROP IT (as my late father was wont to say)
I don’t see the issue with bringing up Matheny. He was the manager for half this year and blamed for nearly all of the losses. I think it stands to reason that comparisons can be made both ways.
I respect you, UConn, probably more than any other poster on CT.
And I sure don’t want to “get on your last nerve”.
We’ve known each other for a long time. I’ll of course do as you wish. But I do have to agree with Pads that MM is still fresh in the memory and the forum is for posting both facts and opinions. And all I have done is state my opinion (and many facts that I thought backed it up). True, I have probably stated it too many times. But I didn’t start the one sided discussions on MM. I have never started a thread about him. I just responded, most of the time with facts, which I felt it was my right to do. I thought it was in a reasonable manner. I’ve never gotten personal like some have against me, and have certainly never used terms like LaGenius, Muttheny, Bow tie, Moronsaliak, DeWallet, etc. As I said in my last post, which you responded to…moving on. But I have to ask a question. If I am critical of something Shildt does, will you and BW accuse me of comparing him to MM? Would just like to know beforehand. Take care and have a good work week.
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