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October 28, 2024 at 6:53 am #270652
jj-cf-stlParticipantConcerning the 5 day window, I hope all 6 players Marylin called out are allowed to walk.
If the FO is considering bringing Kitt back, he couldn’t face lefties well last season. He allowed the highest ops on our roster (.908 / 147 ops+) of those who faced at least 100 LH batters.October 28, 2024 at 7:06 am #270653
jj-cf-stlParticipantLibby struggles vs righties, but as a reference point to Kitt, Libby allowed a .823 ops / 133 ops+ to righties across 220 PA’s in 2024.
Both Kitt and Libby can hold their same side matchups to an ops in the .500’s, but the message board strongly favors Kitts production?
October 28, 2024 at 7:38 am #270656
jj-cf-stlParticipantIf Mo trades Helsley, he could consider bringing back Kitt as a low salaried “closer”, but Kitt’s splits suggest we shouldn’t, if winning is still on the table.
If we choose a cheapie closer because our “reset” traded away Helsley, at least Kitt would keep the “saves” cost off our young players career totals and arb salaries, but, Kitt recorded one save in 8 save opps last season.
Sadly, it’s hard to talk of next season or its players, when W/L has become secondary.
October 28, 2024 at 8:01 am #270657If our pipeline is so destitute that we need to hire in a relief pitcher who will be 35 by opening day, then ok.
October 28, 2024 at 9:35 am #270659Kitty is not a closer. But he’s a tremendously valuable arm in the pen. Despite his age, he needs to be resigned. He’s cheap and he’s effective…….that’s a win-win in anyone’s book. If left out on the open market, he’ll be scooped up so quick your head will spin.
October 28, 2024 at 10:17 am #270662The objective is to provide opportunities for young players.
October 28, 2024 at 12:20 pm #270668While still remaining somewhat competitive. You have to keep a couple of the old horses(especially the inexpensive yet quality ones)around or the young ones will run totally amuck.
October 28, 2024 at 12:38 pm #270669
jj-cf-stlParticipantThe old horses like ping pong players their age, and will stump for them loudly (2024).
October 28, 2024 at 2:14 pm #270676If Helsley is traded I think we will have a closer combo of Libby, Jo Jo, and Fernandez.
October 28, 2024 at 3:31 pm #270684
jj-cf-stlParticipantThose three have accumulated 6 saves, and 16 blown saves in their careers. Not that it matters in 2025 and beyond, so sure, why not. Might as well give them the blown saves. Might help hold their arb salaries down for Bill.
October 28, 2024 at 3:53 pm #270686
stlcard25ParticipantIt’s not exactly fair to compare saves and blown saves for a guy who’s not pitching in the 9th most of the time. Any of the three choices would be a step down from Helsley, but Helsley could be a step down from his past stats too. It would be nice to have the elite closer for one more year, but if he walks for nothing then they’re not exactly going to benefit a lot from 78 wins vs 72.
October 28, 2024 at 4:24 pm #270689Unless you are investing in Mariano Rivera spending big money on a closer is a fool’s errand. The Cardinals should cash in on Helsley before he implodes.
I think Libby could be a weapon out of the pen if they would finally just leave him there and stop the fantasy of him being a starter.
October 28, 2024 at 5:43 pm #270695I’ll be shocked if they sign a 35 year old reliever. We are going to need a 9th inning guy going forward, so they will want to see how guys look, not punt and run a 35 year old out there.
October 28, 2024 at 6:47 pm #270699I also think it would be foolish to commit a lot of money to Helsley. He’s been good, but closers are almost universally prone to scatter and go south in a hurry and I expect Helsley to continue that trend. The Cardinals will in all probability approach the search for a 9th inning guy like they’ve always done which is to run an arm out there until they find one that’s reasonably effective at recording the last 3 outs without surrendering a late lead.
October 28, 2024 at 6:56 pm #270700Where does Keynan Middleton fit in our 2025 plans?
October 29, 2024 at 10:06 am #270738The Cardinals will probably decline his option. Whether they try to bring him back on a cheaper one year deal remains to be seen but I kind of doubt it.
October 29, 2024 at 12:57 pm #270753
jj-cf-stlParticipantI wasn’t trying to establish those relievers effectiveness in “hold” scenarios 25.
If Helsley is gone, those same relievers who are not established in saves, are likely going be asked to contribute saves.
Maybe it’s not “exactly fair” to expect immediate results, was my point.
October 29, 2024 at 1:12 pm #270754For some reason, Loutos got a lot of 9th inning work at Memphis. It will be interesting to see what the Bloom peeps do with him, especially being a NDFA.
November 4, 2024 at 8:53 am #271127The #STLCards have already said goodbye to six players, with more changes likely ahead. Though the team has no 2024 Gold Glove Award winner, we remember those Cardinals who did in team history. https://t.co/hgoDiJ6LXO pic.twitter.com/pYB71IeVTj
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 4, 2024
November 11, 2024 at 7:05 am #271567The #STLCards renegotiated their TV contract to stay with FanDuel Sports. Willson Contreras and Sonny Gray are remaining, but Nolan Arenado may not. Ken Boyer is up for the Hall of Fame again. We remember Cardinals who previously won Silver Slugger Awards. https://t.co/4H8DH5oDeU pic.twitter.com/VnQntJrSsJ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 11, 2024
November 18, 2024 at 7:20 am #271920In TCN's weekly #STLCards news recap… As trade rumors surround him, closer Ryan Helsley racks up major awards. Winter Warm-Up details have been announced and prior Cardinals Rookie of the Year and Cy Young Award winners are remembered. (free) https://t.co/gwPDeQ7ueB pic.twitter.com/ZDJkPHdsYA
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 18, 2024
November 25, 2024 at 8:11 am #272303In our weekly #STLCards news recap… The 40-man roster is adjusted prior to the Rule 5 Draft and most players are kept for 2025. Prior Cardinals Manager of the Year and Most Valuable Player Award winners are remembered. https://t.co/W2V62NTNKD pic.twitter.com/89QhhezkLS
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 25, 2024
November 25, 2024 at 8:11 am #272304In our weekly #STLCards news recap… The 40-man roster is adjusted prior to the Rule 5 Draft and most players are kept for 2025. Prior Cardinals Manager of the Year and Most Valuable Player Award winners are remembered. https://t.co/W2V62NTNKD pic.twitter.com/89QhhezkLS
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 25, 2024
December 2, 2024 at 6:51 am #272641In our weekly #STLCards news recap… A new Director of Pitching is joining as trade rumors continue to swirl around multiple players. Our history feature investigates prior trades and free agent signings made during this week. https://t.co/g6ljFgS0QG pic.twitter.com/TTI4H2JQ5F
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 2, 2024
December 9, 2024 at 7:12 am #272925In our weekly #STLCards news recap… New player development directors were hired, and trade rumors carry into the Winter Meetings. Our history feature investigates prior trades and free agent signings made during this week. https://t.co/yRkYEQc0j6 pic.twitter.com/ojf1SVw5Ra
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 9, 2024
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