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April 20, 2018 at 9:34 am #49508
The Reds certainly will need to bring Senzel up soon, if nothing else so the fans have someone to get behind as sort of a “face of the franchise” type guy.
They also may need to step out of their comfort zone this winter and go big after one of the marquee free agents, like Harper or Machado. As the saying goes, desperate times call for desperate measures.
It’s weird – it just seems wrong that the Reds are a poor club, and the Cubs are good. After living a lifetime where the reverse was the norm, it seems like the earth has tilted off it’s axis to have the Cubs a premier team and the Reds a laughingstock ball club.
April 20, 2018 at 10:17 am #49516Well the Cubs have a gazillion more dollars of revenue than the Reds. They just finally have a front office and ownership group that knows what to do with it.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread the Reds have had a serious attendance problem for years. They seem to have the worst fan support in the NL Central by far. The days of the Big Red Machine are long gone. Personally, I think going after Harper or Machado is the last thing they need to do. They should try to trade Votto for elite young prospects, see if they can offload some of Bailey’s contract to someone, and build from scratch. They have some good young pieces on offense but their starting pitching is AA quality.
April 20, 2018 at 10:34 am #49521if Joey Votto were a FA next year and he produced the SAME line as last year, what would his contract be? As a 35 yr old would he garner a 5yr/125mm contract? I cant see anyone giving him 5yrs and if they did the AAV would be significantly lower.
So im not sure this continued line of reasoning that the reds could get pieces, or elite prospects for joey votto. In my opinion they would be lucky to dump his salary in full, and im sure they would like to.
I went to college in ohio and lived in cincy for a short time. Id categorize them as HUGE sports fans, but there is no doubt that ohio is a football state. That being said i think they can and will draw if they begin to compete, theres just no reason to fork over hard earned dollars for the product they are putting out now…
April 20, 2018 at 12:23 pm #4952414NyquisT
ParticipantThe Indians are taking over the fair-weather fans in Ohio. Wearing a Cleveland “C” cap is a whole lot better than wearing the Cincinnati “C” or the little, running baseball man. The fans in the mid-state areas are more apt to travel to Cleveland for a game these days. Anyway, Cincinnati has been turned into a disaster zone that fans don’t want to visit.
April 20, 2018 at 1:22 pm #49530I hate to see the Cincinnati Reds down like this. This was once a proud, and highly respected, franchise.
April 20, 2018 at 1:36 pm #49532I agree with you, mud. I didn’t like Selig overall, but I give him credit for consistently pushing for more parity across the game. (Though his tactics at times were terrible, such as contraction!)
Parity clearly does not seem like a priority for Manfred, who seems more interested in minor items like pace of play.
April 20, 2018 at 3:25 pm #49537I don’t like Manfred at all. There are about 10 teams or so who have intention in fielding competitive teams which is hurting the product much more than mound visits.
April 20, 2018 at 3:41 pm #49543I sure wish Price would have been fired after Sundays game. Seems like teams get a bump, temporarily from a firing, even a bad team.
April 21, 2018 at 2:13 pm #49652Votto is getting up there in age no doubt but he came within two points of winning MVP last year. He is still one of the top 10 players in the game and I have no doubt there would be many teams line up to trade for him if he would waive his no-trade clause.
April 21, 2018 at 2:16 pm #49653This list of 10 things the Reds should do comes from my friend Doug Dennis, who lives in Cincy and is a writer for BaseballHQ.
Reds: 10) put Finny in the pen; 9) Amir in the rotation; 8) Peraza and Hamilton bat 7/8, never 1/2; 7) Winker is a starter; 6) Schebler/Duvall job share; 5) trade Iglesias; 4) install Senzel at 3B; 3) stop bunting; 2) stop getting thrown out on TOOTBLANs; 1) throw to the cutoff.
— Doug Dennis 🇺🇦 (@DougDennis41) April 21, 2018
April 21, 2018 at 3:03 pm #49659Well I actually had to google TOOTBLANs to see what it meant.
April 21, 2018 at 3:03 pm #49660Well I actually had to google TOOTBLANs to see what it meant.
April 21, 2018 at 3:30 pm #49667The wins all count, but this Reds team is historically bad.
If they don't score 4+ runs in this game, it'll be 2018…and that's all-time among Reds teams.
— Joel Luckhaupt (@jluckhaupt) April 21, 2018
Fewest runs through first 20 games in Reds history:
2018 – 59
1945 – 60
1944 – 62
1943 – 62
1985 – 63
1941 – 64— Joel Luckhaupt (@jluckhaupt) April 21, 2018
April 21, 2018 at 4:33 pm #49681ill jump on the iglesas thing 100%, if hes still on this team next year i dont even know what to say…
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