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May 31, 2026 at 7:50 pm #308675
It’s always been my view that being average is as mundane and wearisome as is being normal…No fun at all.
May 31, 2026 at 7:54 pm #308676bling said:
Being average is fine unless everybody else is better.
My math training affirms that is impossible.
Reminds me of Garrison Keillor and fictional Lake Wobegon, where “all the children are above average”. 😉
May 31, 2026 at 7:54 pm #308677Liberatore’s moving right along through 5. I probably shouldn’t have said anything…
May 31, 2026 at 8:08 pm #308678He was at 85 pitches. WTF
Dobbins comes in and gives up a homer.
May 31, 2026 at 8:09 pm #308679Bregman: “Welcome back Dobby”
May 31, 2026 at 8:09 pm #308680Slider left middle middle to Bregman for the first batter Dobbins faces ends in a home run.
May 31, 2026 at 8:11 pm #308681Liberatore must have felt a bit frail or anemic after 85 pitches. That’s getting to be a common malady with pitchers around the league.
May 31, 2026 at 8:13 pm #308682Maton in working the 6,7,8 hitters.
May 31, 2026 at 8:14 pm #308683The data says third time through the lineup is generally much worse. Same today as it was in yesterday’s world. Just today they use that data and act on it – for better or worse. I guess Ollie decided he didn’t want Bregman vs Libby for the 3rd time. Didn’t seem to matter though as Dobbins got the worst result possible.
May 31, 2026 at 8:20 pm #308684Gorman can’t even challenge correctly. Now we have none idiot!
May 31, 2026 at 8:21 pm #308685The data says third time through the lineup is generally much worse.
I can imagine the wonks saying the data doesn’t lie, always pull the starter. What isn’t considered is whether the starter “much worse” is still better than whatever a reliever comes in with. In this case, I am not sure going to Dobbins was the better move.
May 31, 2026 at 8:25 pm #308686I understand what you’re driving at, Jnevel, but he’s working with a 5-0 lead. How is a SP’er ever going to develop the sort of stamina needed to work deep into a baseball game if he never experiences a threshold above 80 to 90 pitches? They handle these guys as though they were delicate cream puffs that could break if they so much as sneeze.
May 31, 2026 at 8:25 pm #308687Lobby would’ve been out regardless after 6. Right now Dobby in trouble.
May 31, 2026 at 8:26 pm #308688They better have someone up in the hully.
May 31, 2026 at 8:27 pm #308689Great to have The Machine in the broadcast booth at Busch Stadium! pic.twitter.com/SfbelJnwhK
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May 31, 2026 at 8:27 pm #308690That hit by Busch sure looked like it would have been caught by a normal left fielder.
It’s possible Church would have run down that drive by Conforto, but not sure on that one.
May 31, 2026 at 8:27 pm #308691Well, 6 is greater than 5.
May 31, 2026 at 8:30 pm #308692Haha…”Gorman can’t even challenge correctly.” I think a player or manager who loses a challenge should be ejected…
May 31, 2026 at 8:33 pm #308693They handle these guys as though they were delicate cream puffs that could break if they so much as sneeze.
Maybe that’s because these guys do seem to break after sneezing. We have like 15 injuries to our minor league pitchers. Every day I see new headlines come across ESPN about another pitcher hurt. Just a different world. Guys throw so hard and with so much spin compared to yesterday. Batters got faster and stronger so pitchers did the same (or vice versa). Same as in every professional sport. More money equals more incentive to get better. Therefore, more people competing to get better and more companies and trainers working to make people better.
May 31, 2026 at 8:34 pm #308694Yeah, it’s good to see the all time great up there, Mang…I happened to notice that he had a pair of cheaters on in the booth. Just think of how many taters he’d have ripped if he’d worn those in his playing days…
May 31, 2026 at 8:37 pm #308695Just tuned in. So far so good. Figure Rat should be watching too since it’s on network TV. Walker could make it a lot more comfortable here.
May 31, 2026 at 8:38 pm #308696Oh man, double play. Dang!!
If we can hold on and win this one, the White Sox will have a better record than the Cubs. As we speak they are dead even.
May 31, 2026 at 8:41 pm #308697Same as BikeMike tuned in after 5. I don’t have a problem with them pulling Libby even if the results weren’t great. Both the data and eyeballs see that Libby gets gassed quickly and he has blow up outings when he gets tired.
May 31, 2026 at 8:41 pm #308698I’m not sure how I feel about sticking with Dobbins here. It helps the pen rest, but this is still a big game and 4 runs isn’t out of reach.
May 31, 2026 at 8:42 pm #308699Or, maybe it’s because they hardly ever endure any sort of heavy workload. In any case, it was once important for a SP’er to have the ability to accumulate at least a token number of IP’ed. And eventually any relief corps, no matter how efficient, will experience a genuine meltdown if an unreasonable amount of the pitching workload is transferred over to the BP.
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