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It’s been my experience that the visiting team almost has to score twice in their half to hold a secure lead. I like our chances.
You might be surprised to know that the visiting team wins more often in this format. At least that’s been the way the numbers have gone so far.
Man, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, there. You’ve got to win those games that you lead in the 9th…you simply have got to. This one hurts. Sounds like the manager and players both whiffed on this one, big time.
If the team had traded Helsley in the winter like many here wanted, do we think the team has more or fewer wins? I think it would be about the same as it is now but with probably a 45+ FV prospect in the org in place of Helsley
1TD, here is an interesting article about the trend of the visiting team winning more games with the Manfred man.
Bill likely pockets it, but Helsley’s is significant salary relief, that could have been put back into the roster too.
I think VSII, Nootbaar, and Helsley all own that L. Nootbaar especially had a rough game. Ollie gets partial credit for choosing Vilade to pinch hit.
Quietly I’d like to mention, 40% of our rotation and arguably our 3 best relievers will be FA’s at season end.
Logistics wins wars. Feed the pipeline.
Thanks, ATM. It’s still an oddity, but the theory provided in the article concerning sac-bunts makes genuine sense. Ever since they began this silly format, I’ve said that I’d have Gehrig bunting in extras…
And I’m aware that I’m probably in the minority, but I miss 19 inning baseball games. But only because I happen to like baseball…
“I think VSII, Nootbaar, and Helsley all own that L. Nootbaar especially had a rough game. Ollie gets partial credit for choosing Vilade to pinch hit.”
Yup. And don’t forget the “strategy” of having Victor Scott NOT steal third base in the 10th. Really dumb, especially once there was one out.
By the way, this was to my knowledge the 8th time this season Victor has found himself on second base with one out. Maybe the most obvious of base stealing situations, right? Stealing 2nd with two outs, and stealing 3rd with one out, are the two times you should *always* send an elite base thief. And yet VSII has only tried for third base once. Once. A 94.4% base stealer, and he’s tried once. Because his manager apparently believes in an excruciating overabundance of caution on the base paths.
(By the way. Identical situation for the Cubs about a week ago. Crow-Armstrong on 2nd, one out, extra innings, Cubs down a run. Counsell sent him on the first pitch. Because Counsell is brilliant? Because he’s crazy reckless? No, because it just makes sense to try it in that situation. It simply makes sense, if you have a really good base stealer.)
Marmol is doing something unusually stupid with Victor Scott and Masyn Winn that I don’t believe any other manager has done with any other major leaguers in the past 40 years or so. Specifically, I don’t believe any other elite minor league base stealer has seen his stolen base attempts plummet like these guys, upon reaching MLB. (For the purposes of this assertion, I define “elite minor league base stealer” as someone who in his minor league career steals 50+ bases per 150 games, with at least an 80% success rate. Or 40 steals and 85%. Or 30 thefts and a 90% rate. That’s an elite minor league base stealer. And it describes both Winn and Scott.)
I cannot prove this, because one cannot prove a negative, but I believe that every single elite minor league base stealer who has become an MLB regular in the last forty or so years, has NOT seen his stolen base attempts precipitously decline like Scott & Winn. And most amazingly of all, thanks to two rule changes — larger base sizes and restrictive pickoff limits — we are living through an era when MLB stealing is easier than in decades!
I would like to offer 100 bucks to the charity of your choice, to anyone who can find JUST ONE elite minor league base stealer since 1985, who has gone on to accrue at least 2,000 MLB plate appearances, and seen his steal attempts per plate appearance drop by more than 60% after reaching MLB. Besides Scott and Winn, that is.
I believe that Marmol is truly breaking new ground here. But please, someone prove me wrong. Maybe you can make me despise Ollie a little bit less. It’s no fun hating your team’s manager this much, no matter how blindingly incompetent he is.
I’ve never hated the guy, but he’s an across the board lousy manager and I’ve never cared for him at all in that capacity since the time he demonstrated his first rate stupidity in game 1 of the ’22 NLWC. In my view, there’s not a solitary area of managing a baseball team in which he could be termed somewhat capable. But I’ve actually arrived at a place in which I find him to be amusing. A circus clown like figure. If I don’t want to be angry all of the time while watching, what other choice do I have but to find some humor in his act, and there’s plenty of humor to be had… I regards to tonight’s game, he made some mistakes, but you always expect him to do just that. But, in my view, this loss rests squarely on the shoulders of the Redbird closer. The team came from behind and handed him a one run lead heading into the final inning. His job is to record the final 3 outs and he failed to do so before relinquishing the lead.
I’m still trying to determine why he’s in the dugout
Vilade or Oli? He (Oli) put a guy who isn’t a major league player in a major league game at a critical time. I can’t get over it. There’s been some real nice play at times this year. And I’ve enjoyed it. But the commode is still unflushed.
I know I’m among an absolutely huge minority, but I’ve always opposed the entire concept of “closer.” If you’ve got a guy pitching well in the eighth without too many pitches in his arm, why yank him in favor another guy with a cold arm an splinters in his keester? I don’t see the magical element favoring one over the other.
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