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Sonny Gray declined to speak with media following his departure, telling a #stlcards official he'd prefer to know more about the tightness before commenting.
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— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) March 4, 2024
I read the headline and was alarmed. I saw the wording of the tweet with the word “tightness” and my stomach sank…figured it was going to be the elbow. Thankfully the hammy is not quite as bad. Still, stinks to have the shiny new toy break before the game even starts, even if he’ll have time to heal up.
having an MRI for hammy tightness IMO means it is more than just not having stretched out
The rotation has zero room for error by its construction, and Gray was supposed to be our #1
This at least sets him back
I thought the rotation wouldnt last a month, but i honestly thought it would last at least until the first month
so our 6 man rotation for the first month has Libby and Zach i assume forced to be in it
I miss the days when we had guys like Zach and Libby chomping at the bit and having to over achieve in AAA forcing an opening to happen instead of being forced into painfully thin rotations and depended on regardless of performance
I remain underwhelmed with all aspects of this team right now
Not one thing looks exceptional
It was still Feb. when the Cardinal manager named Gray as the opening day starter. I fully expect him to declare that this little setback will help the team in Sept.
It was still Feb. when the Cardinal manager named Gray as the opening day starter. I fully expect him to declare that this little setback will help the team in Sept.
“Getting Sonny Gray back from injury is like making a trade, so we don’t need to do anything on the market. Gives us our five reasonably compensated starters back for the stretch run.”
It’s amazing that all the things players/pitchers do nowadays to stay in tip-top shape that they seemingly still get hurt all the time.
Maybe they should do like Herzog said – Eat hotdogs and drink beer. That’s what Babe Ruth did.
Hammy’s can be slow to heal. Hopefully he is ready sometime in April – we will have to see. Maybe this will intensify our interest in Montgomery. Course he probably won’t be ready by opening day either given he has not been in a camp yet.
Slow to heal and quick to recur. In any event, the whiz-kid should probably regroup insofar as who gets the baseball in LA. If he’s smart, and he ain’t, he won’t say who his opening day starter is until ST’ing is over and done with.
“Hammy’s can be slow to heal. Hopefully he is ready sometime in April – we will have to see. Maybe this will intensify our interest in Montgomery.”
But Montgomery still employs $cott Bora$, far as I know. So how about this trade for Dylan Cease:
Nolan Gorman + Alec Burleson + Willson Contreras + mid-level pitching prospect, i.e., pretty much anyone not named Hence or Roby.
Cards eat half of Contreras’ salary, making him a relative bargain for the Pale Hose at 8-9 million per year. Cards’ player payroll likely doesn’t increase by a single dollar, as Cease is due to make roughly 8 million this year via arbitration.Cards get much younger with Herrera taking over at backstop, Donovan or Edman — preferably the latter, assuming full health before long — can play the keystone, and the unruly roster clog of position players is solved at least until Scott 2 or Saggese is ready for the majors.
Of all the possible concerns I could think of as a result of Gray’s injury, the fact he was already named Opening Day starter would not even make my list…
Maybe next time Ollie is asked about something like the opening day starter, he will contact me as his speech writer. 🙂
As for Bob’s trade proposal, I can understand the clearing up the position log jam somewhat. But man, I hate the thought of dealing Gorman. An infielder with his power is really tough to give up. If I am the White Sox though, I would probably insist on Gorman and either Thompson or Liberatore. We would need to throw Burly in as well, or possibly Baker.
Substitute Donovan for Gorman and I can live with it. I like Donovan a lot, but Cease would certainly ramp up our rotation.
If Mo goes to the Sox with a fourth OF, a UT and some second tier pitching prospects, they can certainly get a better deal from someone else. Hence might be able to headline a deal for Cease, but Mo should do that now. By later this season Hence could be solidly on the Liberatore fringe trajectory if he fails to dominate upper level hitters like he did in A level ball. If Roby answers the bell from now until the deadline he could have value. As of now, he’s a guy you have to put with someone else to be worth a rental. You can’t go for Cease with a deal featuring that.
I’m up in the air about Gorman. If he’s the next Kolton Wong then landing Cease for him would be OK. Pretty good second basemen are not that rare. If he is going to be better than the next Wong, then that is different.
Maybe Goldy and Arenado can whine enough they bring Waino back. Gray was my last choice for a reason. Than they continue to get older with Gipson and Lynn. Carpenter and Brandon Crawford. You gotta be kidding me. I’m pretty frustrated. We would have been way better off without any of these guys and done a real rebuild. I will be watching and cheering for the young players, waiting patiently for Mo to retire. Oily won’t make it to July. They will blame him for the whole mess.
“Getting Sonny Gray back from injury is like making a trade, so we don’t need to do anything on the market. Gives us our five reasonably compensated starters back for the stretch run.”
Yep that would be a classic Mo comment.
I see very little chance the Cards make a move for Monty at this point. As a hat tip to JJ I will state that the Cardinals current CBT number is 212. The limit is 237 before tax has to be paid. I am assuming Monty will get in the neighborhood of a 25M AAV which would put us right at the CBT limit. I can’t think of many more things in the universe less likely to happen than Bill DeWitt paying one cent of luxury tax.
I would be in favor of going after Cease although giving up Gorman would definitely sting.
A more likely scenario is we roll with what we have in hopes that Libby and Zack can step up or we take a flyer on someone cheap like Clevinger, Hill, Thor, Greinke, or Lorenzen.
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