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July 4, 2022 at 6:11 am #190030
This is the latest info from Man Games Lost. The Cardinals are at the far left, tucked under TOR. They are among the teams with the very fewest player games missed due to injury in 2022.
MLB injury plot. Injuries and injured list games missed versus team wins. Bubble size represents cumulative quality of players lost for games (Lost-war metric) https://t.co/FLVa0xiN8G pic.twitter.com/TCD83Y4xTL
— Man Games Lost MLB (@ManGamesLostMLB) July 3, 2022
July 17, 2022 at 11:33 pm #191705Up to the break, the Cards are still among the lowest six or so teams in terms of injury impact in 2022.
MLB top 5, impact on teams from injured players and IL (Lost-WAR metric)
1 BAL 5.41 WAR lost
2 LAA 5.36
3 SEA 4.30
4 MIN 4.10
5 CIN 3.98https://t.co/wUCghQsFv5— Man Games Lost MLB (@ManGamesLostMLB) July 17, 2022
MLB injury plot. Injuries and injured list games missed versus team wins. Bubble size represents cumulative quality of players lost for games (Lost-war metric) https://t.co/wUCghQs7Fx pic.twitter.com/1TatV6PhMC
— Man Games Lost MLB (@ManGamesLostMLB) July 17, 2022
July 18, 2022 at 5:32 am #191710That injury metric does not consider value to the team of those lost injury innings I don’t think. Injuries wiped out our whole rotation except for the 40 year old guy who is 6-7.
Maybe our biomechanics wonks think lefties with a lower arm slot who haven’t been throwing radar gun candy since high school will be more resistant to injury.
July 18, 2022 at 6:40 am #191711Yes the player value is included. The WAR lost by the players being unavailable is the bubble size.
July 18, 2022 at 9:07 am #191720Subtract from that the WAR of the replacement and it would reflect the impact on the team.
July 18, 2022 at 11:08 am #191730
jj-cf-stlParticipantSpoken like a member of the analytic team BB!
😀July 18, 2022 at 1:03 pm #191736Yup, I’m all in.
July 19, 2022 at 9:09 am #191818bccran
ParticipantMaybe expectations have something to do with it. If your arm or shoulder was a little tired or a little sore in the past, you’d put some analgesic balm on it and press on. You were expecting to pitch and you did. Many times the arm recovered on it’s own over a short period of time. Now, all sorts of red flags go up. I pitched all the way through high school, college, and semi-pro ball. Sure my arm ached at times, but it always came back to normal. Never missed a start.
July 19, 2022 at 11:09 am #191826It will be interesting to see how the two new lefties with a lower arm slot fare as far as injuries
July 19, 2022 at 11:21 am #191828Interesting posts, BB, and cranny, and Brian. Glad you guys are here.
July 20, 2022 at 7:27 am #191928BC – when you were growing up did you play other sports too? I think making kids specialize by the time they are 10 and keeping travel teams / clubs / training going almost year round grinds on young minds and bodies.
I think playing multiple sports year round is fine. It’s like cross training but that’s not how it works for most promising young athletes these days. They are almost forced to pick a main sport very early and then play that sport all year in order to ‘keep up’.
August 2, 2022 at 5:16 pm #193717Update:
MLB injury plot. Injuries and injured list games missed versus team wins. Bubble size represents cumulative quality of players lost for games (Lost-war metric) https://t.co/BsmMUK5Evp pic.twitter.com/rejWqBKSyi
— Man Games Lost MLB (@ManGamesLostMLB) August 2, 2022
August 3, 2022 at 1:37 am #193792Any info on Matzx? Maybe he had surgery? With the addition of Montgomery and Quintana that gives us 6 starters not counting Matz and Flaherty. Sounds like those 2 aren’t likely coming back, or in a relief role at best.
October 14, 2022 at 7:12 am #204545Final 2022 numbers…
MLB 2022 regular season injury plot. Injuries and injured list games missed versus team wins. Bubble size represents cumulative quality of players lost for games (Lost-war metric)https://t.co/Yh0kuFC1gD pic.twitter.com/pCjXscawYi
— Man Games Lost MLB (@ManGamesLostMLB) October 13, 2022
October 14, 2022 at 7:12 am #204546The 2022 #stlcards had the fewest player games missed due to injury in all of MLB. https://t.co/eQT7qTQiIo
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 14, 2022
October 14, 2022 at 8:02 pm #204616Wow, I would have thought the Cardinals were one of the most afflicted teams in baseball. Shows you what the eye test is worth.
October 14, 2022 at 9:21 pm #204621In all fairness, Nate, every team’s fans are very familiar with that team’s injuries, but pay less attention to other teams. We are all guilty of it.
That is why I shared this information. No one can complain that injuries derailed the 2022 Cardinals. If anything, they were quite fortunate – and probably won’t be as fortunate in 2023.
October 14, 2022 at 10:28 pm #204623The only questions in my mind are this – WHO IS GOING TO SHOW UP INJURED AT THE START OF SPRING TRAINING? AND WHO WILL BE HURT SHORTLY AFTER SPRING TRAINING STARTS?
October 15, 2022 at 12:18 am #204626fans are very familiar with that team’s injuries, but pay less attention to other teams. We are all guilty of it.
You see this a lot. Even more in football I think.
Just a thought, but a “games missed” type stat could be even more telling. It could be a stat weighted by player value (expected WAR or something similar?) to truly show how damaging the missed games were, e.g., say next year luck runs very low and Goldy, Arenado and DeLuzio all miss 50 games. Which one of these things is not like the others?
October 15, 2022 at 12:39 am #204627Duh, I made my post above after reading Brian’s reply #204546. After that post I began to read more posts above. Lol, disregard my post now, I thought I was on to something!
October 15, 2022 at 11:26 am #204647The only questions in my mind are this – WHO IS GOING TO SHOW UP INJURED AT THE START OF SPRING TRAINING? AND WHO WILL BE HURT SHORTLY AFTER SPRING TRAINING STARTS?
Hopefully no one but history suggests it will be Alex Reyes, Steven Matz, and Tyler O’Neill.
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