Pham Traded

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  • #63334
    thejager
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    hey Pads…why dont you approve of Saxon? I am curious

    amazing that his source only tells him about these little clashes and info AFTER the guys is moved

    #63337
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    I watch Memphis almost every night and it appears to me that O’Neill is just a tad behind Mercado who is elite. Garcia also. Now they have added Lane Thomas who made several great plays last night. Stubby has it really good. He can play almost anyone in the outfield and have a good defensive outfield. Sometimes I think he just throws 8 balls out with position and batting order and whoever gets there first gets to start in the position and batting order the ball says.

    Last night Schrock batting cleanup and Baron batting ahead of Soto.

    #63338
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    I’m not speaking for Pads but it seems to me that Saxon just thrives on reporting drama instead of what is happening on the field. He should be a gossip columnist instead of a sports columnist.

    #63367
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    Oneill starting in CF tonight as reported…they were worried on whether the flights would get him here in time but they did

    #63382
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    As far as return, this is a terrible trade for the Cards. We traded a possible impact player for three MiLB’ers, two of whom will probably not be in the org when play commences in 2019–my understanding is that all will have to be protected if we want to keep them from the next Rule 5 draft. And the Cards gave up $.5Mg of their international bonus pool.

    O’Neil has to make good at the MLB level for this to work, for me.

    Pham was loud, but he was mostly justified. I didn’t get the impression that he received help from the org with his eye issues beyond keeping him on the roster. And his complaint regarding being kept on the farm while the playing time of flailing young players was extended at the MLB level was valid to me.

    Trading a noisy Pham, with years of cheap control, while retaining Fowler(???), (I’d stick with Ozuna a little longer.) for three low-ceiling players on short tethers, suggests (to me) the front office is feeling heat and not going to tolerate (public) criticism from within.

    #63388
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    thejager

    hey Pads…why dont you approve of Saxon? I am curious

    amazing that his source only tells him about these little clashes and info AFTER the guys is moved

    BOOM. I knew it.

    Tommy Pham
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    Tommy Pham Retweeted Mark Saxon

    First Dex, than Bud, now you write something false about me you should be fired for making up

    #63391
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    thanks Pads…he’s on my dunzo list now too

    Mags…im with you…Oneil better be the real deal quick…and now moving Mercado i am even more confused

    #63392
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    Onyxgem

    that is typical of several people on the board, they don’t like what somebody posts or rights about so they just choose not to believe it even when true

    Or I could be right. See my post above from Pham. Why is it that you believe this singular sportswriter to be accurate when the other sportswriters and the players themselves say otherwise?

    #63395
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    I don’t see anything in Mercado’s toolshed that Bader doesn’t do better.

    #63399
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    Pads what Saxon wrote is still 100% correct even if you don’t like it and even if Pham trying to deflect it doesn’t make it correct….and Saxon still saying what he said was right so sure seems like he was right in his first tweet!

    #63400
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    “I don’t see anything in Mercado’s toolshed that Bader doesn’t do better.”

    That maybe but that doesn’t mean you have to move him for change.

    #63406
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    Onyxgem

    Pads what Saxon wrote is still 100% correct even if you don’t like it and even if Pham trying to deflect it doesn’t make it correct….and Saxon still saying what he said was right so sure seems like he was right in his first tweet!

    Well if Saxon says he’s right, who would question that?

    #63407
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    philcron77
    That maybe but that doesn’t mean you have to move him for change.

    Capel is just shy of being on Mercado’s level as a prospect. He is also LH. With Justin Williams coming in the Pham trade, it’s likely that Adolis Garcia and Arrozarena will handle CF in AAA the rest of the year. Both of them are very capable CFs and with Bader, O’Neill, and Munoz, there isn’t a need for Mercado on the ML roster.

    There just really isn’t room in the upper level OF for all the players we have with Williams basically taking O’Neill’s spot, as O’Neill took Pham’s spot.

    Interestingly, Mercado will be opposite the White Sox’s Tilson in the AL Central.

    #63410
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    I’m sorry that Pham is the guy they picked to go. I guess they had their REASON. Pham was a looong-time Cardinal organization player (12yrs?) I don’t like to see our guys being sent elsewhere.

    It looks like we got our #9 and #14 prospects but on paper I don’t see anything that would put them there.

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    Mercado is Bader with better strikeout rates and ability to steal, and a less insane platoon split. It’s a coin toss to me but I was hoping for Harrison to be trade bait in a move for a better player this winter. So all in all, I’d rather have Oscar still.

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    #63414
    14NyquisT
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    Oooops….. Cabrera slips to #13 with the departure of Mercado.

    I’ll have to weigh both Williams and Cabrera to see if those are the right spots for them (my list).

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    First time I’ve seen the numbers on the contract Pham was offered. I can see why he turned it down. He will probably get more than $3.4 million even with the down year (arb numbers are based on the last 2 years of stats). If he had repeated last year he probably would have been north of $6 million.

    #63419
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    Me too. Maybe they thought that if they insulted him with a low offer, he’d play out of his mind again. Ha!

    #63420
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    Pham is gone and its better for all sides.Let him do his “poor mistreated me” routine in TB and he can see his team get its ass kicked on a regular basis by Yankees and Red Sox.

    #63424
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    Pham is gone and its better for all sides.Let him do his “poor mistreated me” routine in TB

    Did you read the Goold article? I think he was very gracious in his exit there.

    I also think Tampa will benefit from this deal and the Cards will get little to nothing from it, but that’s not to say that O’Neill won’t be an upgrade.

    #63425
    14NyquisT
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    bw…. I’ll miss all your Phamese comments. Some were pretty humorous. 🙂

    #63432
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    Pham wasn’t a spoiled apple in our basket, but he was pretty badly bruised. Hence, he had to be removed. There are still a couple more bruised apples, but I can understand why they remain at this time. Since Genesis was my favorite band when I was in my 20’s and 30’s, this Genesis kid intrigues me. ‘Trick of the Tail…’Lamb Lies Down On Broadway….’Squonk…..’Abacab….it doesn’t get much better than that! And we’d be terribly remiss not to welcome the esteemed MagnoliaCardFan (Mags) back to the Cardinal Nation fold!

    #63434
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    Hicks needs to be given a nickname like “Revelation” so that one day Genesis can start a game that he finishes. The headlines would write themselves.

    #63435
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    14 Nyquis- I make no secret that I didnt like the player.I do wish him well at TB and hope he doesnt show his ass .He was gracious on his exit I will say that.Publicly he handed his trade okay.
    25- we will just have to wait and see how the 3 guys the Cards received from TB work out won`t we.I think we look back in a few years and are damned glad the trade happened.

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