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January 19, 2024 at 12:56 pm #241707
MrperkinsParticipantGarbage
January 19, 2024 at 1:01 pm #241710Absolutely
January 19, 2024 at 1:14 pm #24171114NyquisT
ParticipantOf all the hundreds of players mentioned here that the Cards should obtain….. not one comment about bringing MCarpenter back. I guess “Welcome backs” are in order.
January 19, 2024 at 1:19 pm #241713Oh holy geez…….
Who is running this organization? Give me the reigns, I’ve got a brain.
January 19, 2024 at 1:39 pm #241716thank goodness. I was afraid we re-signed him. It was honorable for him to back out before embarrassing himself and the team.
January 19, 2024 at 1:48 pm #241717Just got off a media Zoom with Mo about the Carpenter signing. Will post an article soon.
January 19, 2024 at 1:57 pm #241718what a joke this franchise has become…waste of time here
January 19, 2024 at 2:17 pm #241719Even if Carp were two or three years younger, it wouldn’t make sense to add him to the current Cardinal roster. Another lefty bat without a set defensive position? Don’t we already have Burleson, Gorman, and Donovan?
Given the StL roster composition, and the universal DH, it seems to me it’d be much more logical to add a bench guy who hits lefties well and can add something with his baserunning and/or glovework.
I guess the one thing you can say in Carpenter’s favor is, at least he’s someone experienced who is used to being a part-time player, and doesn’t need to play every day to keep his skills from atrophying — unlike Carlson and Donovan and Herrera and Burleson….
What a fouled-up roster.
January 19, 2024 at 2:19 pm #241720So some guys just have a knack for making money. Here’s Matt Carpenter, whose career has one foot in the grave and the other foot on a banana peel, knocking down an extra $740K before his career falls in.
It’s possible that Burleson is about to get traded, and Carpenter with his .176 BA and -0.03 WAR will fill the gap.
Maybe MO thinks this will sell tickets. If so, this proves that he has no respect for the average fan.
I feel embarrassed about our Front Office.
January 19, 2024 at 2:26 pm #2417225.5M since the Braves released him. The 740K the Cards pay will be subtracted from the 5.5 the Braves pay.
January 19, 2024 at 2:32 pm #241724This is just too funny! Who will be next, John Jay? We need new ownership and new FO! We are becoming a big league laughingstock!
January 19, 2024 at 2:37 pm #241726My article on the #STLCards return of Matt Carpenter including Zoom remarks from PBO John Mozeliak. (free) https://t.co/MmDqc6qBgo pic.twitter.com/7tvb2zkl55
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) January 19, 2024
January 19, 2024 at 2:55 pm #241727
stlcard25ParticipantCarp is one of my favorite Cardinals of my adult sporting life, yet it seems like this move has next to no upside and a fair amount of potential downside. It wouldn’t make much sense for this team unless they have no hopes of competing.
January 19, 2024 at 3:20 pm #2417281982 willie
ParticipantThis is a joke move in my opinion. Even if he comes out and has as good a final season as lou brock had his final year it would still be a joke move. I read the article. Good write up Brian. They say it’s for leadership. They have enough onfield leadership already. What this team seriously lacks is leadership above the field playing level and I’m not talking about their head coach. Carp was a really good player for us but we didn’t owe him anything. He was way overpaid his first stint. Also I’m not knocking him for still wanting to play. This is on management and it’s inability to manage.
January 19, 2024 at 3:34 pm #241729Maybe a lefty bench bat is on the trading block.
January 19, 2024 at 3:44 pm #241730And now Josh Hader is apparently in agreement on a five (5) year deal with the Houston Astros.
January 19, 2024 at 3:51 pm #241731Mo’s remarks hit home when I heard of the Carp signing. They want another veteran presence or voice in the clubhouse. Additionally, it gives Carp the opportunity to retire as a Cardinal.
All this leaves me with the feeling that the clubhouse must have been a real mess last season. Clearly, not enough veteran leadership combined with some talented malcontents. Well, it appears Mo has addressed both issues. There is still room to upgrade the bullpen. However, there should be clear expectations for a winning season and little room for excuses.
January 19, 2024 at 4:03 pm #241733The 2023 clubs definitely had the look of a club with poor leadership, which I put mostly on the manager. Teams do need players to perform leadership roles as well. I can see that as a need, but to be desperate enough to bring in Carp as a player is quite a leap. He just does not give us anything from an on-field perspective – can’t play defense, poor base runner, so-so offense. That is a lot of negatives to bring in for leadership.
January 19, 2024 at 4:08 pm #241734Oh boy another nostalgia tour. Terrific. Maybe John Mabry and Jason Isringhausen can dust off the cleats.
January 19, 2024 at 4:12 pm #241735Was there seriously not a better use for $740,000?
Where is he going to play? We don’t need him to DH.
I honestly do not understand or see any upside to this move whatsoever….
January 19, 2024 at 4:35 pm #241736This extends way beyond laughable. His “veteran presense” can not only teach the youngsters how to foolishly stand in the box with the bat resting on their shoulder as they lazily stare at a belt high fastball as it floats through the middle of the strike zone, but they can also be taught the tremendously uncommon fine art of falling victim to the silly hidden ball trick whilst lost in a stupor-like daydream over at the 1B bag…They could have signed Manny Motter, but thought it better to take on this long ago washed up ballplayer…We got no chance if they think this guy’ll help.
January 19, 2024 at 4:45 pm #241737I can’t contain myself. I have to say once again that this group has entirely outdone themselves with this inane act. What’s worse is that I genuinely feel that the lunacy will extend even further into the outer limits of derangement before the authorities are lawfully allowed to intervene…These kids ain’t near done.
January 19, 2024 at 5:02 pm #241738It seems like there is some negative over reaction. The last guy on the bench never contributes much. Last year Baker put up OPS .627. Carpenter provides similar utility and should be able to ball park that .627. Addressing a perceived need for veteran presence with the end of the bench roster slot is not that bad of a move, considering he isn’t going to be any worse than Baker.
January 19, 2024 at 5:06 pm #241739I guess we now how they spent some if the cash they got from selling Naile to the KBO. The Braves have so much respect for Marp that they are paying him over 4.7 million to play baseball 542 miles northwest of their field.
I’m about done following this clown show. I’ve been a lifelong fan but this franchise just does really seem to give a crap about competing. What a waste of time and resources this move is.
January 19, 2024 at 5:10 pm #241740All this leaves me with the feeling that the clubhouse must have been a real mess last season. Clearly, not enough veteran leadership combined with some talented malcontents. Well, it appears Mo has addressed both issues. There is still room to upgrade the bullpen. However, there should be clear expectations for a winning season and little room for excuses.
Does anyone honestly believe a manager like Bruce Boche would have a problem in the clubhouse? If it was a bad as they are making out that is a direct reflection of the top brass operating the team as much as the players. To me it’s a weak excuse for an all systems failure starting at the top. But somehow they all have their jobs still and are allowed to make stupid signings like this one.
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