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October 17, 2021 at 11:56 am #175169
I know we have a thread about Shildt being fired but I thought it would be a good idea to now begin discussing the selection process for our next manager we well as everyone’s thoughts on who it should be and who it will be. So, having said that…….
1) Do we have a frontrunner?
2) What should we be looking for?
3) Qualifications?
4) Who are the candidates?
5) Who has applied?
6) Who has not applied?Any and all input would be welcome.
r/Esteemed Rat
October 17, 2021 at 12:00 pm #175170I think the candidates are Schumaker, Clapp, Marmol, and Beltran. There could be others.
I would be fine with Schumaker or Clapp. Veteran guys like Bochy or Showalter would bring credibility but it is obvious the Cardinals aren’t going that route. They want a younger guy who is ready to embrace analytics.
October 17, 2021 at 12:14 pm #175172Front runner as in who we would like to see, or as in who BDW and Mo seem likely to choose based upon whatever we know or think likely?
October 17, 2021 at 1:15 pm #175175Good idea, Rats. Repeating this from the other day.
These odds come from @betonline_ag:
Next #stlcards Manager
Stubby Clapp 3/2
Skip Schumaker 4/1
Mark McGwire 23/4
Buck Showalter 13/2
Oliver Marmol 15/2
Joe Espada 8/1
Jose Oquendo 10/1
Bruce Bochy 11/1
Brad Ausmus 12/1
Matt Holliday 12/1
Jeff Banister 14/1— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 15, 2021
October 17, 2021 at 2:30 pm #175189My preference is Showalter but that is not going to happen.
October 17, 2021 at 3:31 pm #175194I don’t understand why Clapp would be the front runner and Warner is not mentioned at all.
October 17, 2021 at 3:56 pm #1751971982 willieParticipantOut of that group above, bochy would be great but don’t see it happening. McGwire would be interesting. I just don’t think he would follow in line with front office.
October 17, 2021 at 4:37 pm #175199McGwire doesn’t set a particularly good example.
October 17, 2021 at 5:01 pm #175201bccranParticipantMy favorite is Stubby. He knows the players well and how the system works. Not a fan of Marmol at all.
October 17, 2021 at 5:05 pm #175202Would Schumaker be the leading candidate for the Padres job?
October 17, 2021 at 5:08 pm #175204If Shildt had a clique Marmol was in it.
October 17, 2021 at 5:10 pm #175205I don’t think our next manager is even listed on Brian’s odds board. Put your thinking caps on, gang.
October 17, 2021 at 5:33 pm #1752061982 willieParticipantWhat bad example does McGwire set.
October 17, 2021 at 5:48 pm #175208I do not think Schumacher is the leading candidate for the Padres. They just dismissed an inexperienced manager who supposedly lost the clubhouse. I think they will hire a more experienced manager this time.
October 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm #175215Stubby did a great job at AAA and seems to be a player’s manager, but not a guy that would be walked on. He also appears to know how to best utilize what he’s got. Plus the club seems to have been grooming him. I thought his time was a few years away, but the just might be now.
But then that is how it goes in sports. The best player on the team is the back-up quarterback. The best manager is the guy behind the guy doing the actual managing.
October 17, 2021 at 7:14 pm #175218I don’t see Shumaker as a likely candidate. He came in under Jockety and hasn’t been with the organization for 10 years. If we go with a first time manager it would be a current employee I think. Somebody in lockstep with Albert and all in with the program.
October 17, 2021 at 8:06 pm #175219Espada is interesting, as Houston is analytics driven. Puerto Rican, which Yadi has already said would be a good thing.
Possible negatives, Astros bench coach starting in 2017, what did he know with the Bang on the Drum All Day scandal? Does he get along with Albert?
October 17, 2021 at 11:01 pm #175224Hochman: ‘You want him in your dugout.’ Why Skip Schumaker checks boxes to be Cardinals manager https://t.co/3LytM3tKfN
— STLToday Sports News (@STL_SportsNews) October 18, 2021
October 17, 2021 at 11:26 pm #175226That is the most anemic list of potential managers I have ever seen in my life. If the mananger really matters then the Cardinals are already in trouble for 2022.
October 18, 2021 at 8:03 am #175237Pork TwainParticipantI would like for Stubby or Skip to get the shot.
October 18, 2021 at 8:20 am #175238I would bet the decision has already been made or is down to two.
There may be some internal positioning and smoothing out going on to make sure the staff and players are in lock step. They need to know if there is anyone else they need to get rid of.
October 18, 2021 at 1:27 pm #175260I like me as the next manager, but I feel me and Mo would butt heads too.
In all seriousness though, I think Skip is the guy who will get it. Comes from a very analytical team in the Padres and knows the organization very well. I think as much good as we’ve always heard about Stubby he’s to much like Schildt for them to put him in there.
On a side note I met Skip one time when he was playing. Really nice guy. He’s not 5’10” though, or I’m taller than 5’11”. I also worked a year in minor league baseball in 2006. Met the Palm Beach team and got to sit and hang with them a few times. Talked the big club and many things and when Skip was talked about nobody had a bad thing to say about him and it was always how hard he worked, always made me root for him more.
October 18, 2021 at 1:51 pm #17526514NyquisTParticipantI would like to see someone that is more of a disciplinarian. Skip is a nose to the grindstone type. He might be the best choice working with the younger guys.
October 18, 2021 at 1:55 pm #175266The more and more I read about all of this and who might be our next manager the more and more I appreciate the comment in Jack Buck’s book about the 1980 Cardinals.
Jack Buck was talking about how the players were running all over Ken Boyer and taking advantage of things. That was part of the reason the Redbirds werent winning. Jack’s final comment in that chapter was this:
“All of that was about to change. Whitey Herzog was coming to town…”
r/Esteemed Rat
October 18, 2021 at 2:47 pm #175270I am leaning towards Skip myself. He seems to have the “it” factor which is hard to explain.
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