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    I am familiar with the Detroit Tigers because I live less than an hour from Comerica Park. I actually saw a Tigers game there a couple of months ago (free tickets)
    They are on pace to win 50 games and lose 112!!
    Are you sure you want to rebuild? For one thing, even if everything goes well, you usually end up with a good club that makes the playoffs, then falters short of a pennant, much less a championship.
    We could have that with one relief pitcher and one bat.

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    The Tigers are doing a complete tear down, which they needed to do after Mr. Ilitch’s wild spending a few years ago. I don’t think anyone is advocating the Cardinals do that. The Cardinals could jettision a few high priced veterans, replace them with more athletic youngsters, and still be competitive. The term rebuild means different things to different people. I prefer retool ala the 2016 Yankees. They jettisoned some veterans that summer for some good prospects then in 2017 they won 100 games.

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    Nobody in their right mind should want the Cardinals to totally rebuild.

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    I don’t know of anyone advocating that. Trying to move Carp and Fowler is not a rebuild.

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    That is not what this thread’s title says?

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    Like I said the phrase rebuild can be interpreted many ways.

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    If you think they have a good farm system, why not just stop making trades (except emergency hole filling), and stop the massive free agent contract signing?
    Even after that great run , Goldy is way off what we paid for.

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    Goldschmidt was an excellent acquisition. Now they have to decide if they want to re-sign Ozuna…at this point I am for it. Carlson has to be the reason why they don’t.

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    Last I looked he has a WAR of 2.0, but if Goldy can run that up to 4.7 by October, we might have a chance. That is the floor we are paying for.
    Bottom line, these free agent signings rarely pan out. Neither do rebuilds that take more than a couple of years. There are many pitching injuries every year that turn things upside down quickly.
    To be competitive, you have to be steadily bringing along players and not blowing your wad on big contracts that never pay out.
    Look at LAA. One bad contract (Pujols) has doomed a big market club to a decade of mediocrity, despite having one of the all time greats on the roster (Trout)

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    Goldschmidt was an excellent acquisition. Now they have to decide if they want to re-sign Ozuna…at this point I am for it. Carlson has to be the reason why they don’t.

    Carlson has played almost exclusively CF in 2019 so I don’t see Ozuna being a factor in Carlson’s promotion. Carlson is a year away anyway and Fowler, Bader, O’Neill, and Thomas are all probably factored in as well.

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    Goldschmidt was an excellent acquisition. Now they have to decide if they want to re-sign Ozuna…at this point I am for it. Carlson has to be the reason why they don’t.

    I would say Carp’s extension may be the reason they don’t.

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    Lets tweak the roster and make it five years in a row with NO playoffs. Start with MO and start the process.

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    nothing wrong with rebuilding, gamecard. just adding this, subtracting that to an old aging lineup is just treading water and praying for a miracle. you can add players and subtract when you have a some great players at the top of their game. we don’t have that at the moment.

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