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  • February 22, 2018 at 11:07 am #44491
    thejager
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    last year was prime example of that IMO

    the bullpen at the beginning of the year was set and had NO wiggle room outside of Bowman (who was the only one doing well early) for optioning anyone down for a fresh arm

    MM was stuck with those guys and trying to find a way for them to work…the pen only really got better once the front office designated Soco Brox and Siegrist

    Oh, Cecil, Rosy all were poor early…

    MM had no option but to mix and match his parts who werent working with other parts that werent working…Bowman was leaned on because he was the only who was doing well outside of Lyons who they were still wary to use for their concern over the need for a fill in rotation piece

    Once Lyons was freed from mop up roles, Brebbia came up..did the pen right itself…Oh continued to struggle but almost everyone else had an uptick save maybe Bowman who because of the overuse never coudl recover

    Sure MM made mistakes at times…but when you only have one or two guys performing and no ability to bring in fresh arms to try what is anyone to do?

    To me any blame for Bowman is on the FO and the other underperforming pitchers…and not MM…

    February 22, 2018 at 2:14 pm #44505
    CariocaCardinal
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    The lack of pitchers with minor league options is going to be a problem this year as well.

    February 22, 2018 at 4:04 pm #44513
    thejager
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    CC…i agree it could be…i think it all depends on if the pitchers pitch well early…i think last year it was so overwhelming even one guy with options might have helped it..and we seem to have one spot open

    Gregerson
    Cecil
    Lyons
    Leone
    Norris
    Tuivalala
    Bowman
    Brebbia

    Bowman and Brebbia have options…so that helps…and if the club is serious about 8 man bullpen then we should be fine

    The key will be how long the FO forces MM to have to keep running out guys that arent pitching well if they dont pitch well…last year it didnt go well

    Lots of pressure for guys to do well early IMO…
    Would we cut our losses early with Norris if need be?
    Will we send Bowman down if needed?
    How long will we go to Gregerson if he struggles early? Would we cut bait on him?
    Cecil?
    Leone?
    Tuivalala is kind of in the LYons and Socolovich role this year…we liked Soco so much he stuck around longer than he was effective…i dont think tuivalala is the same exactly Brebbia seems more closer but at least he has options

    February 27, 2018 at 8:23 am #44728
    Brian Walton
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    What heavy relief workloads, you ask? The ones the Cardinals themselves are acknowledging and taking actions against.

    February 27, 2018 at 5:37 pm #44749
    SoonerinNC
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    Where is the evidence that the front office is forcing MM to play players he does not think will be effective?

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