February 17, 2019 at 11:52 am #82071February 17, 2019 at 11:57 am #82073
Well, I get it on one hand, but another I do not. This would immediately follow the minor league playoffs. As it is currently, most of the AFL players sit for at least three weeks between. If true, this will make MLB teams think about what is better for a 40-man roster player – to play once a week off the MLB bench in September or play every day in Arizona? Reducing some of the September roster glut might be a partial motivation, but for the vast majority of the AFL players, it will not matter. Still, very interesting. Thank you for sharing it.February 17, 2019 at 12:12 pm #82076
I heard somewhere (my memory doesn’t serve me exactly where) that that Sept. MLB roster should be limited to 30. Has anyone else heard of this idea?
So as far as the AZL, I can’t think of a good percentage for moving it up to Sept. It would certainly cut back on the interest that the League receives. Of course a great deal of casual fans don’t know that the AZL exists, but still.February 17, 2019 at 12:19 pm #82078
Good point on fan interest, Ny.
A September roster change, like the 20-second pitch clock and a bunch of other ideas, were put on the table by owners, but when the players asked for the designated hitter in return, that seemed to end the party. More details are on the thread called “MLB Announces Pace of Play Changes”.February 17, 2019 at 12:26 pm #82080
Brian, I wasn’t sure if I should make a new post or what. I figured if anything you would edit the post and place wherever you thought best.
The league would literally be playing the midst of the MLB playoffs which would greatly reduce the interest the league already has. I would think MLB would want to increase interests, not decrease.February 17, 2019 at 12:32 pm #82081
The AFL usually has less than two weeks remaining by the time the World Series is over, anyway. So they heavily overlap as it is.August 28, 2019 at 3:35 pm #104189
I projected four of the seven.
#stlcards prospects to Arizona Fall League – OF Dylan Carlson, 3B Elehuris Montero, C Ivan Herrera, SS Kramer Robertson, Ps Griffin Roberts, Seth Elledge and Kodi Whitley. All with the Glendale Desert Dogs. pic.twitter.com/AK3OAqm7j4
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) August 28, 2019August 28, 2019 at 5:31 pm #104217
You know Dylan Carlson is a really good prospect and is young. But did you know another #stlcards Arizona Fall League invitee will be the 2nd-youngest player in the entire AFL and is ranked no. 12 in the Cardinals system? Free AFL preview article at TCN. https://t.co/TvR5Xc63xv pic.twitter.com/k7fYibP6UT
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) August 28, 2019August 28, 2019 at 5:36 pm #104219
Griffin Roberts? Uhh… *eww emoji*
He hasn’t really shown me anything to warrant a spot in the AFL. Carlson and Montero were obvious choices, especially Montero who the Cardinals want to see what they have in him before deciding what to do with him before the Rule 5 Draft. Robertson had a good developmental year this year and has shown some promise. Ivan Herrera is incredibly young to be auditioned. Kodi Whitley could be in next year’s bullpen discussion. Elledge could find his way into that discussion as well but I’m not sure what he’s down to warrant an audition in the AFL this year.August 30, 2019 at 7:25 am #104329
I can’t find AFL rules in regards to eligibility, if there is no stipulation on having been in MLB already, could the last pitcher be Gomber? He had a lost season for the most part and is likely in dire need of innings.August 30, 2019 at 7:37 am #104331
Gomber pitched two perfect innings for Springfield last night and is scheduled to throw again for them before the season is out. He will almost certainly rejoin St. Louis’ bullpen afterward.August 30, 2019 at 8:04 am #104332
Due to such little work the past few months, I hadn’t considered that as an option. It makes sense though and then he can have a completely “normal” offseason.
Spring Training next year is going to have more competition than they’ve had in a long while. Starting pitching, relief pitching, the outfield and the bench will all likely have a spot or two up for grabs.September 12, 2019 at 2:58 pm #105992
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The plan has changed for #STLCards top prospect Dylan Carlson, John Mozeliak tells me. He no longer will play in the Arizona Fall League, but instead will stay home in California and work on adding strength. Mo is OK with it, doesn't think he has anything more to prove this year.
— Mark Saxon (@markasaxon) September 12, 2019September 12, 2019 at 3:04 pm #105995
I wonder what brought this about…. seems strange.
Will another player take his place in Arizona?September 12, 2019 at 4:25 pm #106008
My guess is that they decided his Memphis stint was successful enough that he didn’t need the extra work in AZ. He already had over 550 plate appearances this season between Memphis and Springfield, so rest is apparently a higher priority now. In fact, I mentioned this possibility in an earlier article.
Yes, I imagine he will be replaced.September 13, 2019 at 8:54 am #106052
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Will they also add an 8th player or has that already been done.September 13, 2019 at 12:48 pm #106077
A lot of presumptions on my part but maybe this signals the Cards making a definite decision not to sign Ozuna. (Either based on Carlson’s performance or Ozuna’a). Thus no need to showcase Carlson for a possible trade.September 13, 2019 at 1:18 pm #106082
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They are not trading Carlson on any circumstance. He is not playing Fall ball because he has already gotten enough AB’s.September 13, 2019 at 1:25 pm #106083
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A full offseason of rest benefited Arozarena last year, who took a huge leap forward this season after playing both pro ball and winter ball since he signed with the Cardinals. In Carlson’s case, he has shown enough to break camp with the big league club next March.
September 13, 2019 at 2:54 pm #106087
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Sure gamecard, which Cardinal exec told you that. Everyone is available at the right price. They traded Kelly because he was blocked for the next two years and they were able to fill a need. If Ozuna was signed Carlson could be blocked and for the right player they might move him.September 13, 2019 at 3:42 pm #106089
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Common sense told me that and common sense to me they are not trading Carlson.September 13, 2019 at 4:24 pm #106091
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Mo was pretty adamant that Carlson and Gorman were not available this past trade deadline. Nothing is guaranteed but it would be shocking to see him moved. It would have to be a blockbuster trade for someone like Trout or DeGrom or Scherzer. In other words it isn’t happening.September 13, 2019 at 6:44 pm #106104
If those are the only guys Mo would trade Carlson for he is a worse GM than I thought.
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Pretty sure at some point he wasn’t trading Kelly.September 14, 2019 at 7:53 am #106165
On Aug 28th it was announced that Carlson was part of the Cardinal group that would be playing in the AFL. TCN = SEVEN CARDINALS NAMED TO THE 2019 ARIZONA FALL LEAGUE. https://thecardinalnation.com/seven-cardinals-named-to-the-2019-arizona-fall-league/. Sept. 12th Derek Shore posted a source saying that Carlson would not be going.
What happened in two weeks?
That’s why I said it seems strange.
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