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July 22, 2023 at 6:18 pm #228788
Cards fail to score in the 8th.
Cubs with a runner at 2nd and two outs in the last of the 8th.
Hudson on the mound now.
Still 8-6 Cubs. When this series started I was hoping for a split. We need to win tomorrow, don’t want to lose the last three games to the Cubs.
July 22, 2023 at 6:26 pm #228789Why is Donovan pinch-hitting for Arenado?
And I see where Burleson just got called out on strikes.
Anybody watching the game?
Down to our last out…….
July 22, 2023 at 6:29 pm #228790O’Neill strikes out swinging to end it.
8-6 Cubs the final.
And in case anyone is interested Front Row Amy was in rare form last night at the Braves/Brewers game in Milwaukee.
July 22, 2023 at 6:45 pm #228791Hopefully Mo can turn over most of the pitching staff by next spring.
July 22, 2023 at 6:47 pm #228792
jj-cf-stlParticipantSo we ONLY needed to score 9 runs to win?
Thanks so much for this pathetic pitching staff Mo / Bill.
July 22, 2023 at 7:01 pm #228794Despite any questionable ball/strike calls, these last 2 games have strongly indicated that you probably don’t want to see Burly and O’Neill step into the box when you need a couple of runs to survive.
July 22, 2023 at 7:40 pm #228795Down goes Frazier.
Boys, we should have known better, lol.
July 22, 2023 at 8:21 pm #228796This game clinched it. We are now officially bonafide sellers. It should be a fun upcoming week. I’ll set the over/under for Cardinal trades at 3.
July 22, 2023 at 8:28 pm #228797Does Larry Bird ever make an appearance in his hometown of French Lick?
I’m surprised that Rat hasn’t weighed in on your question yet since he lives in that area, Scotty. I thought I read somewhere that Larry still lived in French Lick. It sounds as if 1TD , like myself, is chomping at the bit to dine at Rat’s Amish eatery in the greater French Lick area. I think that a bunch of us need to head down there to have lunch with Rat. Any other posters live within driving range of French Lick?
July 22, 2023 at 8:54 pm #228798The Amish restaurant that I eat at once a week is NOT in French Lick. It’s in Montgomery, IN.
Not sure about Larry Bird but I don’t think he visits French Lick much nowadays. I am sure he gets there every so often but that’s about it.
July 22, 2023 at 9:14 pm #228802Hard to know what’s worse? Our starters or our bullpen! Top to bottom this is probably the worst pitching staff in the NL! So sad!
July 22, 2023 at 9:23 pm #228803Pugs…There’s a place here in StL. Co. called King Edward’s that we go to on occasion and it’s where I get my fried catfish fix. Their specialty is actually fried chicken, but I never get the yardbird because the catfish is so good. At any rate, it’s fresh and hot right out of the deep fryer and I always get the fried onion rings and cole slaw to go alnog with the spicy corn puppies and wash it down with iced tea with plenty of lemon. It’s good eatin’ Pugs. I never smoked any of those fancy cigars, but Rats has good taste when it comes to those chuckleheads…Haha!
July 22, 2023 at 10:33 pm #228805Did not see this one but heard some of it on the radio broadcast while riding the bike. The error by Walker, which was ruled a hit but Rooney and Horton said Walker misplayed it and should have been given an error, really hurt.
Don’t overlook that part of the reason our pitching is so bad is that our defense is well below our usual standards.
July 23, 2023 at 8:21 am #228817Don’t overlook that part of the reason our pitching is so bad is that our defense is well below our usual standards.
In 2016, after several years of missing the playoffs, Mozeliak said the Cardinals would return to their roots and emphasize pitching and defense.
Since then:
– The Cardinals have played Matt Adams in the outfield
– Have played Jose Martinez and Juan Yepez in the field on the major league roster
– Traded for Marcel Ozuna with an injured shoulder
– Are now playing Jordan Walker in the outfieldWe don’t have defensive standards in the outfield.
Curiously, when our starting outfield was TON, Bader and Carlson, we were making the playoffs.
July 23, 2023 at 9:41 am #228825Yeah, it is nice to see Walker have some moments in the bigs. However, a better approach would have been to have him play in Memphis this year and work on his outfield defense, while we played a better defensive outfield.
That would have accomplished a couple of things. It would have better prepared Jordan for the majors, not to mention pushed the clock back a year on his career. Plus it would have saved our pitchers who knows how many pitches this season. Probably would have translated into maybe 2-3 more wins as well.
Management has done a lot of things wrong in recent seasons, and it has accumulated to what we see in the W-L record of this club.
July 23, 2023 at 9:59 am #228828it would have saved our pitchers who knows how many pitches this season. Probably would have translated into maybe 2-3 more wins as well.
Bringing a guy up from AA when you have alternatives, and then seeing him produce substantial negative WAR, suggests that it was a mistake. But we need to keep in mind other factors, namely the outfield injuries. The extra outfielders who filled in were either very poor defenders or infielders playing out of position, or in the case of Mercado, a 4A guy. Mostly, the CF playing next to Walker all year has been somebody playing out of position, and moving him back and forth from one corner to the other couldn’t have helped. So roster construction and player useage were key contributors. All teams have injuries, but not all teams bungle the work around so severely. Pitching has underperformed, but FO and managerial ineptitude has made matters worse for the pitchers.
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