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April 11, 2023 at 7:12 pm #216282
6:45 p.m.
LHP Jordan Montgomery (2-0, 2.25) vs. RHP Vince Velasquez (0-2, 9.82)
BSM // KMOX // WIJR
(and Bally Sports Southeast/Southwest)April 12, 2023 at 10:47 am #2163804 game set against the mighty Buckos is just what the doctor ordered. Win 3 of the 4 games and get some mojo rolling.
April 12, 2023 at 5:21 pm #216439Nice to face somebody with a worse ERA than our guy. If I have time when I get done reorganizing my socks drawer and de-linting all the sweaters in the house I will look up how their FIPs stack up.
April 13, 2023 at 8:23 am #216478So, I was doing some reading on the Bally bankruptcy. The article said they have $425M cash on hand to continue to operate during bankruptcy but did miss their last interest payment on some debt and something about dropping 3 teams / regions out of 14.
I think they are trying to reorganize but if they are not going to pay the rights fees (is this addition to not servicing their debt or is it the same money?) then why is MLB allowing the broadcasts to continue and not stepping in?
I must have something wrong in the above because it’s not adding up (pun intended).
April 13, 2023 at 12:53 pm #216503I think they are trying to reorganize but if they are not going to pay the rights fees (is this addition to not servicing their debt or is it the same money?) then why is MLB allowing the broadcasts to continue and not stepping in?
Not the same money, distinction being creditors vs suppliers. MLB is a supplier of rights. Creditors sell debt in the form of loans, bonds, etc.
In a good old fashioned bankruptcy there’s enough ugliness for all stakeholders to get screwed. Adding up doesn’t happen. MLB is not standing idly by and has made court filings for Bally to honor their contractual obligations. But blood and turnips…
The courts, and to an extent the secured creditors who seize control of Bally’s remnants (and working with the stakeholders), will decide how these issues shake out.
April 13, 2023 at 3:19 pm #2165121. Brendan Donovan (L) 2B
2. Alec Burleson (L) LF
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Nolan Gorman (L) DH
7. Tyler O’Neill (R) CF
8. Jordan Walker (R) RF
9. Tommy Edman (S) SSApril 13, 2023 at 3:43 pm #216516What! No Manny Motter? The guy rips an RBI double yesterday and the Redbird manager sits him as soon as he begins to swing the hot bat and scorch the baseball…It never ends!
April 13, 2023 at 4:44 pm #216517I read the lineup as Johnnie Walker batting 8th. I think a couple ounces of Scotch will go well with the game tonight.
April 13, 2023 at 4:49 pm #216518As promised I looked up the FIP of tonight’s starters. Velasquez 7.91, Montgomery 2.16. For those who are not savvy, that means their guy stinks. We should be able to fatten up.
I guess Carlson is still on the end of the bench with a lampshade on his head.
April 13, 2023 at 5:09 pm #216519When Walker dropped the fly the other night, the Rockies’ color analyst said the Cards were dead last in all of MLB for defensive efficiency. I guess that’s not terribly surprising, so I looked it up for 2022 and they were 12th. I am a little surprised at that and would’ve guessed they were better. In 2021 they were 2nd in defensive efficiency. That’s the year they had 5 gold glove winners, so not surprising.
April 13, 2023 at 5:28 pm #216520Euro, what is that specific measure? I did not know so I Googled “MLB Defensive Efficiency”. The first item on the list is DRS, Defensive Runs Saved.
In that metric, the Cardinals are currently 15th, right in the middle of MLB at 1 DRS, tied with the World Champion Astros. St. Louis was fourth in 2022.
April 13, 2023 at 5:29 pm #216521It will be interesting to see what Oli does with outfield alignment when Noot returns. I predict we will have all three outfielders out of position. A right fielder in left. A left fielder in center. An infielder in right. Who’s on second? I don’t know. Either a utility guy or a third baseman. The second baseman is playing short.
April 13, 2023 at 6:00 pm #216522Tampa wins lucky #13 in a row to tie the record. They’re formulating their post-season roster as I key this in…
April 13, 2023 at 6:01 pm #216523Haha!…All 3? I guess he doesn’t miss…
April 13, 2023 at 6:04 pm #216524I agree that the rookie put the oven mitt on it and got burned, Euro, but I wouldn’t call that a fly ball. It was scorched to RF. At any rate, I’d of had it…Haha!
April 13, 2023 at 6:07 pm #216525Anyone think Mr. Wainwright can provide a bit of a bolster? How far off is he, anyway?
April 13, 2023 at 6:09 pm #216526I think he will try hard and have some good days.
April 13, 2023 at 6:18 pm #216527Yeah, he’ll certainly try hard, Bling. If he doesn’t, Marmol will tell on him…
April 13, 2023 at 6:48 pm #2165283 outs on 6 pitches with a K. Monte’s on light duty.
April 13, 2023 at 6:52 pm #216529Euro, what is that specific measure? I did not know so I Googled “MLB Defensive Efficiency”.
Brian, I’m not sure if I had heard it before either and that compelled me to look it up. I figured I was the only guy around here who didn’t know, lol.
The MLB.com glossary says “Defensive Efficiency Ratio is a statistic used to evaluate team defense by finding out the rate of times batters reach base on balls put in play. Basically, for every ball hit into the field of play, how likely is the defense to convert that into an out?”
Formula is:
1 – ((H + ROE – HR) / (PA – BB – SO – HBP – HR)).ROE is reached on error.
So to me, it looks like a blend of defense and BABIP allowed.
You can find actual team rankings for 2023 on BR:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2023-standard-fielding.shtmlThe listing of team fielding stats is in alphabetical order, but just click on the “DefEff” column heading to sort by that stat. There are buttons where you can move ahead/back to the next/previous seasons.
April 13, 2023 at 6:54 pm #216530I agree that the rookie put the oven mitt on it and got burned, Euro, but I wouldn’t call that a fly ball. It was scorched to RF. At any rate, I’d of had it…Haha!
Oh sorry. I didn’t mean to imply it was a can of corn for the rookie like it would’ve been for you or me in our heyday, haha.
April 13, 2023 at 7:00 pm #216531Did you see him the instant before O’Neill stepped in and took charge on the first out of the game? Looked a little like our old friend “Skates” out there. He’s got some work to do if they want to keep him in RF.
April 13, 2023 at 7:07 pm #216532Thanks, Euro. Learned something new today. I wonder which defensive measures to trust.
The SABR Defensive Index, which is 25% of Gold Glove Award scoring, is a blend of five metrics:
Defensive Runs Saved
Ultimate Zone Rating
Runs Effectively Defended
Defensive Regression Analysis
Total Zone RatingNo mention of Defensive Efficiency Ratio.
https://sabr.org/latest/details-new-rawlings-gold-glove-awards-selection-process-sabr
P.S. Never mind. One is team defense. The other is individual defense.
April 13, 2023 at 7:16 pm #216533I missed the 1st inning doing yard work. I remember O’Neill’s rookie year I thought he was like a bull in a china shop playing the field. Great physical attributes but not always pointed in the right direction or harnessed well. Sort of like a sturdy piece of furniture or equipment that can handle a load, but needs a good polishing.
April 13, 2023 at 7:28 pm #216534Maybe the GG bar is lower for LF because the competition is left fielders. O’Neill has not looked slick in CF.
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