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April 13, 2023 at 6:28 am #216468
Wasn’t Contreras target #3?
April 13, 2023 at 7:12 am #216471Perhaps my memory is defective but I recall Contreras frequently doing evil things to us when he was a Cub. Could he be a mole?
April 13, 2023 at 8:48 am #216479He will hit around .240 as he has away from Wrigley for his career. You could say, well, he has a new home field. True, but its also true his peak is unlikely to be in the future. I’m ok with him, a solid catcher costs a lot. Hopefully we won’t be expecting him to hold down a middle of the order slot too.
April 13, 2023 at 9:11 am #216481I wonder how much TBR’s rotation costs.
Their entire 26 man roster costs less than Scherzer and Verlander.
April 13, 2023 at 9:51 am #216486Does anyone forsee the possibility of a rotation consisting of 3 LHP’ers in the event Libratore’s promoted? That would be highly unusual for any team and I can’t ever recall any Cardinal rotation with 3 LH’ed pitchers.
April 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm #216501Contreras a good sign.
April 13, 2023 at 12:32 pm #216502Contreras is pressing. It’s very difficult to replace a Hall of fame catcher.
April 13, 2023 at 12:56 pm #216504He better be a good sign. He will be 31 in May. 5 years is a long tine for a catcher on the wrong side of 30.
April 13, 2023 at 3:04 pm #216506Does anyone forsee the possibility of a rotation consisting of 3 LHP’ers in the event Libratore’s promoted? That would be highly unusual for any team and I can’t ever recall any Cardinal rotation with 3 LH’ed pitchers.
It is possible. I suppose it would depend on who he replaces. The two most likely candidates to be replaced are Woodford or Matz in that order. Montgomery and Flaherty have been semi-effective and Mikolas makes too much money to be replaced.
April 13, 2023 at 3:16 pm #216510I have the answer – at least in terms of season-opening rotation. In 1999, the Cards had three lefty starters to open the season:
Kent Mercker
Darren Oliver
Donovan OsborneThey also had three pen lefties:
Mike Mohler
Lance Painter
Scott RadinskyThat team finished 75-86.
April 13, 2023 at 3:32 pm #216514Matz draws a pretty nice stack of paper too, gscottar, but yeah, he’s been lousy and can’t seem to keep the baseball from leaving the field of play. I’d also say Montgomery’s been everything you could ask for. His last turn says 7 IP’ed, 0 ER’s, 9 K’s, 2 BB’s and only 3 hits allowed. I’d say Flaherty’s still TBD’ed. Mikolas was supposed to be the veteran anchor of this rotation in the absence of Wainwright. The only sort of anchor he’s resembled thus far is of the type that hits bottom with a thud…At any rate, if either Mikolas or Matz continue to get slapped around in their next turn or two, I could forsee the old arm soreness trick emerging and a missed turn or two by either of the M’s to get a look at Liberatore or even Hudson. I simply thought it’d be rare to have 3 LH’ed members in the rotation.
April 13, 2023 at 3:38 pm #216515Nice work, BW. I distinctly recall all 3 of those LH starting pitchers, but couldn’t remember them being in the rotation simultaneously. However, all 3 of those names from the BP have long since vanished from memory. Probably for good reason.
April 13, 2023 at 7:52 pm #216539“Contreras a good sign.”
No. When they couldn’t trade for a clearly superior and much cheaper backstop like Sean Murphy or Alejandro Kirk, they should have settled on the in-house options and seen how that went, at least until June or so.
Contreras again tonight, already butchered another strikeout. Connor Joe, 2nd inning, 2-2 count, pitch over the middle of the plate at the bottom of the strikezone. Beautiful pitch from Monty. But because Contreras had set up a foot inside (don’t ask me why so darn far inside), he wasn’t even able to catch the pitch, much less hold it in place to receive the strike call. He did not even catch the ball. He boxed it.
And again, he is doing this every single game. He is atrocious.
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