2023 StL Game #117: Friday, August 11 at KC (Waino start)

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  • #231230
    Ratsbuddy
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    O’Neill’s dong makes it a 9-5 game. But the Royals are threatening in the last of the 5th.

    #231231
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    Wainwright absolutely needs to pull the plug on himself.

    At this point we need his spot to take a look at guys for next year.

    If he makes another start it’s nothing but selfishness on his part.

    He needs to go on the DL tomorrow with an ‘issue’.

    #231232
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    Similar for me as 1TD in that I have lost interest in the NBA and NFL over the years. I think all the expansion and the fact that my team was lousy in basketball waned on me. Ironically the Warriors came back to be a powerhouse, but the game is not as good with the three point shot in my opinion. It’s a lot more standing around and heaving up 3s and not as much working the ball in and looking for a good shot.

    I was a big college football fan as well and still am to some degree, but all this conference shifting is causing me to lost interest there as well. I like the regional rivalries, but that is no longer a priority as it is all about getting the best media deal. To do that conferences are looking for “name” schools.

    #231233
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    9-6 now.

    #231234
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    Boy, that hurt.

    #231235
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    Thompson might be taking the starts in Waino’s spot from here on out.

    #231236
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    Man, Gorman did that earlier in the year as well. Just dropped the ball on a potential DP. Got ‘er done the second time though.

    #231237
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    That out at 3B on the challenge cost at least a run, but still have chance which I never would have thought after that 1st inning.

    #231238
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    Man, Gorman can’t be swinging at that!! Sheesh, the ball was in the dirt. Contreras on for the fourth time tonight. He gets plunked quite a lot.

    #231239
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    O’Neill and a pitch to hit on 3 and 1. Just missed it.

    #231240
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    I hung around for the college game for a while longer, Bikemike, but they ruined that for me too. That NCAA tournament was really something special in the early stages of it’s heyday in the mid to late 70’s all the way up to when the hype took over in the early 90’s and everyone who until that time never followed it got interested. Now, it’s not unlike anything else that’s ruined by the big flow of cash.

    #231241
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    Need a 2 out RBI base hit from Burly.

    #231242
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    The big money generated by big time athletics has definitely changed the landscape. Us old guys tend to like things better the way they were back in the day.

    You never see college seniors in basketball anymore. And everyone is a free agent, so in football you have a new team most every year. Conferences have lost their identity. Just is not as good in my opinion.

    #231244
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    I agree, Bikemike. The flavor and character of NCAA men’s basketball vanished a long time ago. At one time, not too many people followed that NCAA men’s tournament and it was almost like you didn’t want to tell too many folks how incredibly entertaining it was because you just knew what would happen when corporate sponsorship showed up to cash in…Haha! At any rate, you just don’t see teams like the Massimino led Wildcats, the Ray Meyer Blue Demons, or my all time favorite Al McGuire led Marquette, Warriors anymore. To me, that was when college basketball was born into it’s heyday.

    #231245
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    If Wainwright was a prize fighter, his license would have been pulled by now.

    #231246
    1toughdominican
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    Pacheco’s keeping him patched up so he can answer the bell for the next round…

    #231247
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    You have to acknowledge that Contreras can hit.

    #231248
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    Those Phillies have been playing well and now have a 4.5 lead overthe other two teams currently atop the NL WC race. I still have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that they had the fortitude to sack Joe Girardi last season and we still have a veritable whiz-kid as the Cardinal manager.

    #231249
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    Well, at least we didn’t lose any ground on…The Pirates, who lost to the Reds by a final of 9-2. I’m hoping we can catch them sometime in September…

    #231254
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    Well, at least we can’t get any lower than last place.

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    Adam can’t go 5 IP anymore so those last two wins aren’t coming as a SP.

    #231260
    Brian Walton
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    Wainwright says he has to compete better. To his credit, he stood in there after the game and went into detail. He said he will finish strong, even though he admits he doesn’t know how he is going to do it.

    #231273
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    How sad to watch Waino in the first. He has nothing on any pitch. Please retire Saturday and stop the horror. Love the guy but he is done.

    #231291
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    I watched the Waino comments on mlb.tv, and like he has always been, he is honest and does not dodge out of things. He owns the situation and said so.

    He did say he senses that he will finish strong. I can related to that in that there are times you just seem to know that you are going to do something. But there are times where you think that, and it does not work out the way you thought it would as well.

    For now you have to move him to the bullpen, give him so low leverage appearances, and see how it goes. If he can even pitch a couple of decent innings, then give him a shot to come in for a higher leverage moment when there is a chance he can be the pitcher of record and get a win.

    And as I mentioned before, whatever happens, with the team going home after the season he will most likely make one, possibly two more home starts the last couple of weeks of the season that will be highly publicized so that fans can send him off with a fond farewell.

    #231296
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    We are in a position where it doesn’t matter if we win or lose, so it is possible to indulge Waino in recognition of his glorious career as a Cardinal. It does need to be acknowledged that its not a good look though.

    When Winn comes up later this month, I wonder if a starter might come too. Maybe put the Waino experience to rest. I don’t know who. The guy on the 40 man is circling the drain and neither of the top prospect guys is doing anything top prospectish.

    Does anyone know what the September roster expansion rules are now, and any idea what that might look like?

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