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September 5, 2022 at 5:46 pm #199316
I can’t even hardly remember when the Cards last lost a game.
September 5, 2022 at 6:02 pm #199317To get shut out at home on a holiday by a team that’s 40 games below .500. That’s almost impossible.. Sold out crowd too…
September 5, 2022 at 6:07 pm #199318Just tô show how box scores can be misleading — Stratton apparently got hit harder than Pallante but from the box score Stratton looks like he pitched way better.
September 5, 2022 at 6:16 pm #199319Pugs…Haha! Okay, I understand. However, I’d say it’s in your best interest to immediately destroy that last comment…
September 5, 2022 at 6:21 pm #199320JMack…Just a few minutes ago I was thinking that I felt a little odd and then I realized it’s been so long since I’ve seen the Redbirds this flat that I no longer retained the immature emotional instability required to shout expletives and break furniture…Haha!
September 5, 2022 at 6:22 pm #1993211982 willie
ParticipantWell offense fell flat but flaherty wasn’t bad so that’s a good thing. Get em tomorrow
September 5, 2022 at 6:34 pm #199322Sanchez is the sort of pitcher that lulls you to sleep. When you look at his career W/L record of 113-118 and couple it up with a lifetime 4.07 ERA, you wonder to yourself how he’s hung around to pitch in the Big Leagues for 16 years. He must also have the ability to lull front office personel to sleep in the same manner that he displayed vs. Redbird hitters in today’s game.
September 5, 2022 at 6:45 pm #199323Milwaukee comes back from an early 3-0 deficit and wins at Colorado. 6-4 Brewers your unhappy final. Only 7.5 games up now.
September 5, 2022 at 8:37 pm #199327Very true CC about the box scores being misleading…. That is what I was referring to regarding Jack. 5 IP and giving up 1 run isn’t bad but just by watching him you could tell he didn’t have his top shelf stuff. Hopefully he gets it back before October.
September 5, 2022 at 10:44 pm #199336Very true CC about the box scores being misleading
Didn’t see much Pallante / Stratton because Pallante entered a little before I quit watching. Agree Flaherty was not sharp overall, so giving up just one run was a good result for him. He did flash some good stuff (movement and velo), so it looks like the bigger issue might be rust rather than the shoulder, and if so, that’s obviously a good thing.
September 6, 2022 at 8:15 am #199346Why can’t Flaherty be working this out in Memphis?
They still have games to play, right?
He’s been out most of two seasons for one thing or another hasn’t he?
September 6, 2022 at 9:12 am #199350Let’s step back and consider the big picture.
If Flaherty is healthy, which he is, he is not required to continue to rehab in the minors. He made five starts already between Double-A and Triple-A.
Since he has to be activated, do folks prefer Jack be moved to the pen? Or optioned to Memphis?
Bottom line, isn’t Flaherty better starting than Hudson? Maybe he deserves a second start to see how it goes?
September 6, 2022 at 10:03 am #199355Maybe better. But isn’t the issue whether he can be a better starting option than Quintana? How much need do we have for 5 regular starters now? If we are serious about challenging for #2 seed, we have to go with the best option every day. So give him another start and see if he’s got enough to be one of the 4 regulars. If not, this is not the time for him, or anybody, to be searching for their mojo on company time.
September 6, 2022 at 10:11 am #199356It was not Jack that cost us this game. It was an offense that was flat because they put every motion they had into sweeping the Cubs. Didn’t matter who was on the mound for us today because the offense did not play their part in a TEAM sport.
With that being said I think it is better for Flaherty to have his first game back against a Nationals team than against a stronger team so that he could build up his stamina and work on the mechanics. We applaud other pitchers when they go 5 innings and only give up a couple hits and a run so why can’t we be consistent and do the same for Jack!?
September 6, 2022 at 10:14 am #199357Anyone hoping to see the old Flaherty is dreaming. To continue a career with a bum shoulder, he has to relearn to pitch with mechanics that his shoulder can tolerate. I doubt he will be effective this season and we probably will not see a whole lot of him.
September 6, 2022 at 10:34 am #199358I was thinking last night the real question is will it be Q or Jack as the number 4 in the playoffs. I’m not worried about starting Jack over Hudson before the playoffs where the Cards have to use a 5th starter. I actually prefer Jack after seeing him last night, but don’t think it matters. I think the Cards have a snowball’s chance in hell of passing both the Braves and Mets regardless of how they play it.
Q just doesn’t seem to go beyond the 5th. But is that a big issue in October? Managers operate differently in October. Many pitchers who routinely go past 5 in the regular season get yanked early in the playoffs where each game is so important and there is little tolerance to see a guy work through a struggle. I think they are elated to get a solid 5 in most cases.
September 6, 2022 at 11:31 am #199367They have a month to settle on the playoff rotation. Getting Flaherty some starts in the interim to determine what role he can play is the smart thing to do. The rest will sort itself out in the weeks ahead.
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