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    Brian Walton
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    This thread is for general news and talk about the Cardinals big league camp…

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    #181397
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    Assuming the Cardinals take 15 pitchers north and assuming Flaherty is on the IL, who is the 15th pitcher going to be? According to the matrix there are currently 14 pitchers on the active St. Louis roster (not counting Flaherty).

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    Blake Parker maybe?

    #181400
    Brian Walton
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    Good question, gscottar. I just want to make a clarification. The St. Louis part of the Matrix includes the players who finished last season in MLB or equivalent – as long as they are on the 40-man now and haven’t already been optioned out.

    So new guys Pujols, Dickerson, VerHagen, Wittgren and Brooks are with StL but non-40-man NRI contenders to make the team like McAllister, Parker, Ryan and Naile are not.

    One other related observation. They could keep Walsh on the team and not have to DFA anyone to make room for one of the NRIs. Give him a month of MLB experience and then option him to Memphis for later. The problem with adding a veteran like Parker is what to do with him when the rosters shrink? Of course, Whitley and Helsley have options, too…

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    #181529
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    Woody has looked good this spring, of the 7 hits recorded against him, 3-4 would have been made if regualar starters had been in. Really only remember maybe 2 hard hit balls against him, alot of weak contact.
    He needs to be the 5th starter, with Ver, as long man.

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    #181678
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    What has become of Angel Rondon? I am surprised a 40man roster member would not see action this spring with the big club. Is he injured? I see he was optioned out.

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    #181694
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    Is it possible that the team goes north with 14 pitchers instead of 15?

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    Bader gets 2/10.5

    #181697
    jj-cf-stl
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    Locks up his Arb seasons this year and next. Glad to see it. Now I’d like to see a full season from him. SHO-ME!

    #181706
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    “Now I’d like to see a full season from him.”

    Where does this narrative that Bader can’t play a full season come from?

    In 2018, he missed two days due to a hamstring.

    In 2019, he missed 9 games due to a hamstring and one day due to a stiff neck.

    In 2021, he missed 25 games due to a forearm strain, and he has said he has changed his workout routine because of it. He also missed 34 games due to a rib injury from landing on a ball on a play he makes 98.99% of the time.

    So, where does this narrative come from that he can’t play a full season?

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    Wade LeBlanc retires

    #181708
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    Where does this narrative that Bader can’t play a full season come from

    Probably comes from his historical stats showing he is good for 400 PAs a year.

    #181712
    1982 willie
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    The 400 plate appearances stem from him either being a platoon player or from being sent down to the minors some. Otherwise he has been relatively available.

    #181713
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    Matheny would bench Bader to get the mighty bats (and horrific defense) of Dexter Fowler and Jose Martinez in the lineup.

    Shildt benched Bader to get Dylan Carlson in the lineup when Carlson’s OPS was 500 points below Bader’s.

    Both of them were fired for not buying into analytics.

    So again, where does this narrative come from?

    #181714
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    You could interpret the post about Bader either way:

    1. He hasn’t been able to put up a full season because of injuries or poor performance or manager choice due to circumstances, OR

    2. He hasn’t had a full season as the starter so it would be nice to see what he can do.

    Either way, it would be nice to see what he will do over a full season

    #181716
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    I don’t know how Ollie’s use of metrics will play out, but Bader really stunk at home last year as well as in 2019. At the plate I mean. He also will probably not be the best option against lefties pretty often. The elite CF defense should keep him in the lineup mostly I would think, but my guess is we will see 400 or so PAs again.

    #181717
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    Bader actually has a career .836 OPS against lefties.

    As for the idea Bader is platoon only:
    In 1,083 PA’s against righties, Bader had a career.238/.320/.386 slash line, good enough for a .706 OPS.

    In 977 PA’s against righties, Edman has a .266/.318/.382 slash line, for a .700 OPS.

    Edman is our lead off hitter and Bader can’t hit.

    #181720
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    Maybe if Bader would quit trying to be such a pretty boy, get a hair cut, quit trying to prance around the bases like’s he’s really cool, etc, etc, and start acting like a hard-nosed baseball player he might be more of an asset.

    And Sean Manaea was traded to the Padres.

    r/Esteemed Rat

    #181721
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    Let’s keep moving the goal posts.

    What is the definition of hard-nosed?

    Bader gets a lot of his value from defense. Isn’t that where the definition of hard-nosed comes from?

    Bader – 10.6 bWAR in 1451 PAs
    Edman – 8.8 bWAR in 1267 PAs

    Bader averages 4.38 bWAR / 600, Edman averages 4.17. But now Edman is hard-nosed and Bader is a goof.

    #181722
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    I don’t dispute that Bader hit lefties good in 2018. But I think what he did since then is what the stat crunchers will be looking at. Matt Carpenter was good in 2018 but that didn’t matter last year and what Bader did in 2018 won’t matter this year. Anyway, we will start finding out in a few days and if I have to eat crow pass the mustard.

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