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April 3, 2022 at 12:53 pm #181723
gscottar asked:
Is it possible that the team goes north with 14 pitchers instead of 15?
Until the final decision is communicated, anything is possible. It doesn’t seem likely though.
Donovan was optioned out today. If they did have 14 position players, Spangenberg is the last man standing.
April 3, 2022 at 2:52 pm #181727Spangenberg is a really fine bench piece, as long as he isn’t permitted to face any southpaws. Just turned 31, so not terribly old. Sure looked good the other day, driving the ball for a pair of opposite-field doubles — and turning on one for a third double in the same game, of course. He and Edmundo Sosa could both start for some teams, I reckon.
At any rate, I’d much rather keep Spangenberg than a 10th reliever, especially since the Birds will be carrying multiple bullpen guys who are classic swingman types. Hope that’s the way Marmol sees it.
April 3, 2022 at 4:17 pm #181728Adding to the Bader debate, I’ll be looking for better base running and for his situational defense to improve. Bader got picked off a lot and overran bases. For defense he’d throw to the wrong base a lot. None of these issues were improved upon as the season ended. So I’ll be watching to see if Marmol picks up on this since Shildt did not. I sometimes wondered if Shildt was really watching the games or if he often got bored and zoned out.
As we all know errors don’t mean much in baseball as they tend to favor offense. So we have to really look at the fundamentals and look objectively at plays to get better. Just because they didn’t call an error doesn’t mean there wasn’t one made. It’s sickening to me that the play by play and commentator will often look the other way or make excuses in favor of their marketing. This way the fair weathered fan won’t know their defense really made a mistake. It’s dumbing down the fans and should be quite insulting to them.
April 3, 2022 at 9:52 pm #181735Really impressed by Bally Sports. Not showing the rest of Spring Training sure does make the fans happy.
April 4, 2022 at 3:24 am #181738According to Goold it is 15 pitchers with the 5th starter situation and last reliever still up in the air. Bench is Pujols, Dickerson, Sosa, Nootbaar and Knizner.
April 4, 2022 at 5:34 am #181740
jj-cf-stlParticipantBader hasn’t put in a full season at mlb. He “can’t” is a narrative that belongs to another poster. “Hasn’t” yet is due to change if he stays healthy. SHO-ME!
April 4, 2022 at 5:50 am #181741Goold says what I’ve been saying for days. 😉
If Spangenberg had made the team, what would you have done with him in a month when rosters are reduced? (He can’t be optioned.) On the other hand, sending him to Memphis now and waiting to add him to the roster until later means he can be used later when really needed (when someone else is injured). He wouldn’t play now, anyway. Sosa is the reserve infielder.
April 4, 2022 at 8:08 am #181749Hummel is reporting that Connor Thomas made the team as the third lefty in the pen. That means a 40-man roster spot is also needed.
April 4, 2022 at 8:48 am #18175714NyquisT
ParticipantSanchez? Naughton?
April 4, 2022 at 9:41 am #1817621982 willie
ParticipantAs evidenced by the game I watched the other day, bader will still throw to the wrong base at times. He tends to be aggressive and that’s the result of that at times. You only have a split second to make a decision, he’s not sitting at home on the couch. He doesn’t need to get a hair cut. Some people need to get a life though. What bader wont or will rarely do is be lazy going after a ball causing someone else to get an error cause they are having to go way out of their area to try to catch a ball.
April 4, 2022 at 9:43 am #1817631982 willie
ParticipantI liked spangenberg but I agree, best for him to go down now. It seems injuries are an inevitability, so he will be ready to come up when needed.
April 4, 2022 at 10:12 am #181767Wow! Commish whiffed big time. It is Pallante who made the roster, not Thomas. Flaherty to the 10-day IL. 40-man roster move still coming.
The P-D rewrote the entire article with no explanation of why they changed it from earlier this morning. Surprising.
Rookie Thomas will be third left-hander in Cardinals' bullpen https://t.co/bT6JV8D5YM
— STL Cardinals News (@STLCardsNews) April 4, 2022
April 4, 2022 at 10:57 am #181769
cardsfan64ParticipantWhoops!
April 4, 2022 at 11:14 am #181772New news: Andre Pallante made the #stlcards roster. Old news: The RHP was named The Cardinal Nation's no. 13 prospect during the offseason. He's the 1st NRI pitcher to make the team from spring camp since Jordan Hicks (2018) and Kodi Whitley (2020). (free) https://t.co/wcpgND8xJ1 pic.twitter.com/dOeQxEWiDk
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) April 4, 2022
April 4, 2022 at 11:21 am #181775
stlcard25ParticipantThat’s a surprise to see Pallante make the team. He does have really good stuff and probably won’t be a starter long term, so hopefully he can be a good middle innings guy for now.
April 4, 2022 at 11:54 am #181777A couple more roster-related factoids:
If the #stlcards proceed to Opening Day with just two players on the IL (Alex Reyes and Jack Flaherty), it will be the fewest since 2015 (Jaime Garcia and Tommy Pham). pic.twitter.com/tw8ocaKgVP
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) April 4, 2022
The move of Jack Flaherty to the 10-day IL leaves Adam Wainwright as the only active member of the #stlcards' 2021 season-opening rotation. Gone are Carlos Martinez, John Gant and Daniel Ponce de Leon. (Kwang-Hyun Kim (also gone), Dakota Hudson and Miles Mikolas were on the IL.) pic.twitter.com/DtbdlDqwsf
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) April 4, 2022
April 4, 2022 at 12:11 pm #181778Should have saved the roster spot and kept Walsh. Little chance you will need a 15th pitcher in a meaningful game
April 4, 2022 at 12:14 pm #181779The fact that Flaherty opens on the 10 day IL instead of the 60 is encouraging at least.
April 4, 2022 at 12:16 pm #181780So Walsh is losing his 40 man spot?
April 4, 2022 at 12:29 pm #1817831982 willie
ParticipantSurprised pallante made it based on his age and such. I’m not surprised based on what I saw of his talent. I’m still not sure he is starter material but for a inning or two he could be lights out if used right. Maybe in time, a starter right might be in the cards. I hope the moment isn’t too big for him.
April 4, 2022 at 12:29 pm #181784gscottar asked:
So Walsh is losing his 40 man spot?
Not likely, but someone will have to – unless someone besides Reyes is injured enough to go on the 60-day IL. We may not know until Thursday.
My candidates include Waddell, Naughton and Zeuch.
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