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Helsley is done. MLB Trade Rumors estimate was $3 million.
TBD: Kittredge, Edman, Carlson and Romero. Deadline is tomorrow, 1/12.
Closer Ryan Helsley and the #STLCards avoided an arbitration hearing for a second straight year when they agreed to a one-year, $3.8 million deal today, sources tell @Feinsand and myself.
Helsley, an integral piece of the bullpen puzzle for the Cards, is locked in for ‘24.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) January 11, 2024
We have reached agreements on one-year contracts for the 2024 season with the following players, avoiding salary arbitration:
OF Dylan Carlson
RHP Ryan Helsley
LHP John King
RHP Andrew Kittredge
LHP JoJo RomeroWe will exchange salary arbitration figures with INF/OF Tommy…
— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) January 11, 2024
A quick update on the status of the #stlcards' six arbitration cases. (free) https://t.co/fbk1aVBdpq pic.twitter.com/cs5uL3Le8h
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) January 11, 2024
Apparently the deadline to exchange figures was moved up to today.
2024 Arbitration Tracker https://t.co/9BnUPLfR4P pic.twitter.com/2O0PMKOfu9
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) January 11, 2024
Best I can tell, Edman’s case may not be settled until well in to Feb. I think that works to his advantage.
My understanding is they had to come to terms by today, but have until tomorrow to decide on and exchange the two formal numbers. Note in the MLBTR article you linked to that there are dozens of figures settled, but not a single pair of filed amounts for hearings. I suspect we will start seeing them on Friday.
1tough, I don’t imagine Edman’s hearing date is scheduled yet, but the range of dates are both in the article on the front page and in the Key Dates thread pinned to the top of the board. I imagine his agent will have ample time to prepare his case. Almost always during WWU, the players are examined by the medical team, so the Cardinals will have the most current view of his healing post surgery.
I’d have to say his recovery from the wrist surgery will be the team’s primary leveraging tool when they present their case to a mediator. I don’t think the Redbirds will play Edman too very cheap simply because, right now, they really need him. As for little Eddie’s agent, if he’s worth his salt he should have no problem preparing a solid case for his client to be fairly compensated. Eddie’s gonna get paid.
Haha!…Without him they have no CF’er, SS or 2B’man…Eddie may get a 9 year contract…3 years at each position!
Best I can tell, Tommy Edman is tied with Paul Goldschmidt for the longest tenure as a St. Louis, Cardinal among position players. Both Paul and Tommy’s first season as a Cardinal was in ’19. Mikolas became a Cardinal in ’18 and is thus the longest tenured Redbird.
Goldy has the edge by a few months as Edman didn’t come up until June 2019. How times change… the war horses are in the barn for good…
Yeah, Goldy began that season with the Redbirds, but ’19 was the first Cardinal season for them both. What amazes me is that Mikolas is all alone as grandaddy of them all…Haha!
I doubt the announced plan to start Edman in CF will have any effect on a potential ARB decision. As of now, he is not an everyday starting center fielder. His record and experience is as a utility player.
Your use of “utility player” is not accurate. It implies that he plays a lot of positions without being a starter at any. That is not true. He has been the best and could be the starter at SS, 2B, CF & RF.
Edman has priced himself out of any utility player role, 10 homers, 60 rbis doesn’t justify 6 million plus.
Edmans 2024 production, or expected 2024 availability after surgery, have zero effect on his 2024 arb salary. Career to date, vs piers, is Arbs intent.
If a club doesn’t expect availability, they have the non-tender option, or pay it and wait for future health.
Edman missed super2 by a handful of days (wink), as he was accumulating service yrs/days in past seasons. He could lead his arb class in GS, PA’s, RS, etc.
Pay him. Play him.
Edman filed for $6.95MM. The Cards offered $6.5MM. Unless they agree on a multi-year deal (which I do not know is being offered), this case will go to hearing.
The home page article is now updated with all Cardinals arbitration amounts and links to original sources.
bccran: I wonder if long term this is a ticket out of town.
Sure seems that way. I can see a trade and I doubt Edman will be a Cardinal come opening day. Maybe better for him to get out of DeWitt’s Camp Cheapo.
I don’t know much about how these things work, but 450,000, in this age of gazillions, doesn’t seem like a dealbreaker.
The only way Edman gets traded before opening day is if the Cardinals get a reliable SS backup and they are sure they have a competent CF.
“I don’t know much about how these things work, but 450,000, in this age of gazillions, doesn’t seem like a dealbreaker”.
I agree with this. The Cardinals need to just pay him…he is going to win in the arbitration hearing anyway.
It’s not about what Edman is worth on the market. The Union and MLB have mutually agreed on an arbitration process that defines what a player should be paid. If the Cardinals believe their figure that they are offering is what the system says they should offer, then it seems reasonable that they stick with that figure. Why pay more?
For instance, for those of you who live in Missouri, you get personal property taxes based on a valuation for your home and vehicles. You are allowed to pay extra if you want. Do you? No. Even if you like the school in your district or the local library. The Cardinals very much like Tommy Edman. But that doesn’t mean they’ll pay more for him than what the arbitration system says he’s worth. When players become free agents, then they get market rates.
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