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It wouldn’t surprise me too much if when the ’24 season comes to a close that Edman has more innings logged at SS and 2B than CF.
I said something very similar on a previous post somewhere around here. A lot of variables though. If it were a bet, I’d take the over on what Mo has indicated and the under on what GameCard wants, haha! Edman is a gold glove infielder. It remains to be seen if he can be that elite in CF. Regardless, I hope he takes his consistency at the plate up a notch. When he’s scores, the Cards seem to do well. I wonder how Edman scoring/not scoring correlates with the Cards winning/losing?
I thought he was a catalyst for the team’s success in ’19 once he established himself that season when he scored 59 runs in 92 games. He then scored 91 and 95 runs in ’21 and ’22 respectively and the Cardinals were post-season participants in all three of those seasons. I can only come to the conclusion that it’s still important to step on HP and Tommy Edman is pretty good at doing just that. If they use him correctly, which they probably won’t, he’ll score close to 100 runs in ’24. And if he does, the Redbirds will qualify for bonus baseball.
Edman is the starting CF because we don’t have a CF. That’s what a UT does. Now we are paying him lineup regular money for the next two years. So does that block Scott?
Well, we’ve taken care of the wallet aspect of the Edman dilemma, now we must deal with the glove aspect.
Scott has not played one inning of Triple-A ball. The block possibility is not a 2024 concern. A lot will change in a year.
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Next 8 yr contract. Will never understand the fascination with “Eddie” but to each his own. Maybe he will be traded next year. I can hope anyway.
You have indicated you don’t think the Cardinals should retain either Edman or Goldschmidt. I must ask, which players do you like?
I like Arenado, Gorman, Noot, Gray, Walker, Winn, Herrera, Liberatore, Helsley, Donovan and Thompson. My favorites Donovan and Gorman.
gscottar said:
Brian I think you left off a zero on the team and player filing figures you cited.
No doubt about it. At least I was consistently off. Making less than the minimum would have been a real scoop!
Seriously, thanks for the edit!
I like Arenado, Gorman, Noot, Gray, Walker, Winn, Herrera, Liberatore, Helsley, Donovan and Thompson. My favorites Donovan and Gorman.
Thank you.
Liking players or disliking them is a personal choice. The “Eddie” intense fandom here is a little weird. Goldy is a great player but my opinion, just mine nobody else’s, is that I don’t want to extend a player who is on the downside of his career. Yours may be different good for you.
I don’t really disagree with your thought process there although I admit I am little biased towards Goldy because I think he promotes the “Cardinal Brand” in a good way, which is all business and no drama.
But each poster has their own style and way of communicating their preferences.
Elite CF, SS and 2B capable, with at least a league avg bat. Name them, go.
He’s unique, which has it’s own appeal.
Mookie may be the best athlete in mlb, but I wonder if he could fill those roles defensively like Edman?
I wonder why the Cardinals gave Edman substantially more money than he’d filed for? I mean, little Eddie doesn’t seem like the type of guy who could frighten Johnny and Billy Jr. into handing over their lunch money. Maybe little Eddie sent an agent named Luca Brasi?
Edman filed for $6.95 and he is guaranteed $7. That is not substantially more. It is only $50K more than if he had won his hearing. And it all depends on how you value year two. If they gave him a little more in year one, but pay less in year two, then everybody appears to win. Edman gets certainty, knowing he can avoid the process next year and is still guaranteed to receive a nice raise.
To me the deal looks fair, which makes sense since both sides agreed.
I thought it was $7M for this season and almost $10M for ’25? Them’s not bad tickets…Almost $3M more than he asked for. I’d term that substantial, but I’m just a former working stiff who was fortunate enough to have been a member of a trade union.
1tough, let me explain further. The arbitration had nothing to do with 2025, only 2024. He did not ask for any salary for 2025 as part of the filing process.
For 2024, the Cardinals filed for $6,500,000.
Edman filed for $6,950,000.They agreed on $7,000,000.
So like I said, Edman gets $50,000 more than if he had won his hearing. I don’t know where the $3 million you mention comes from, but it is not accurate.
If you are referring to next year, were he back in this situation in January 2025, he would have had the right to ask for considerably more than his 2024 salary because he would have had another year of experience (and hopefully good results).
Next year, he will make $9,500,000. Instead, if he had gone to hearing in 2025, he would have been in line for another big raise over his 2024 salary. They settled now on $9.5 MM for 2025. I am guessing that is probably a tad under his maximum possible next year, but a lot would depend on his 2024 season. Now that does not matter in terms of his 2025 salary. It is also set.
The 9.5mil might be slightly team friendly.
Edman is in a good arbitration position now, because he missed Super2 last offseason.
He could have bet on himself thru arb this and next season, and possibly made a couple mil more, but there’s another 9.5mil he can lock in now.
That is my guess, too, jj. Slightly player friendly in 2024 and slightly team friendly in 2025 and roughly equal in the wash.
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