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September 28, 2021 at 8:00 am #173740
The #STLCards system was 2-0 on Monday as both DSL affiliates won tight contests. DSL Blue starter Benjamin Arias is our Player of the Day after fanning eight in five scoreless innings, while Francis Reynoso hit a walk-off home run for DSL Red. (free) https://t.co/rDlV61X5v6
— Blake Newberry (@bt_newberry) September 28, 2021
September 29, 2021 at 8:31 am #173865The #STLCards system went 0-2 on Tuesday as hits were scarce for both DSL teams. Our Player of the Day is DSL Blue DH Robelin Lopez, who reached base three times and drove in one. For DSL Red, Francis Reynoso hit his second home run in as many days. (free) https://t.co/5Y6Oei1iMg
— Blake Newberry (@bt_newberry) September 29, 2021
September 29, 2021 at 11:13 pm #173940Memphis wins big 12-1. Yepez, Capel, Thomas, and Williams star in the victory. I hope we able to deal Williams for someone useful, as he has been passed on the depth chart by Nootbaar and Burleson.
September 30, 2021 at 8:07 am #173945The #stlcards system went 1-0 on Wednesday. TCN’s Players of the Day, DH Juan Yepez and CF Justin Williams, were 4-for-5 in Memphis’ win. Yepez hit 2 doubles, a solo home run, scored 3 and drove in 2. Williams had a double, a 3-run shot and 5 RBI. (free) https://t.co/Ky3a0Ff9x4 pic.twitter.com/PXQIihIwQR
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) September 30, 2021
September 30, 2021 at 8:15 am #173946
stlcard25ParticipantYou know you had a good offensive night when a player with 2 homers doesn’t even get a co-player of the day honor.
October 1, 2021 at 8:21 am #174005On Thursday, the #stlcards system went 1-2 behind a home win by the Memphis Redbirds. The Cardinal Nation’s Player of the Day, second baseman Nolan Gorman, reached base three times. Luken Baker and Juan Yepez each had two hits and an RBI. (free) https://t.co/wNGjemOeuc pic.twitter.com/uxOHj8w5h1
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 1, 2021
October 1, 2021 at 9:04 am #174012
I hope we able to deal Williams for someone useful
If we could do as well as Lane Thomas for Lester I would be happy.
October 1, 2021 at 11:00 am #174021First time in a long time the Cardinals won’t have a minor league team finish with a winning record. The organizational depth is atrocious. Their approach in the international market needs to change.
October 1, 2021 at 11:27 am #174027bccran
ParticipantBHC – there’s some excellent quality, but a lack of quantity.
October 1, 2021 at 12:08 pm #174029I think the won-loss records for the entire system is an outlier. To me the system looks strong. The Top 30 Prospects look promising with several ‘can’t miss’ players coming up. The pitching depth coming up is questionable, but it’s still too early to tell what we really have there. The drafts have been pretty good especially the 2020 draft. Give it another year.
October 2, 2021 at 12:09 am #174124BHC – there’s some excellent quality, but a lack of quantity.
BCC – That’s why I mentioned organizational depth. There certainly are jewels in the Cards system (Liberatore, Gorman, Herrera, Walker) but once you get outside the Top 10 the pitching drops off a freaking cliff. The pitching depth looks to be a huge problem.
October 2, 2021 at 12:13 am #174125
dblackParticipantMore international players or less?
October 2, 2021 at 6:46 am #174128The international strategy has been quantity over highest quality. One can surely debate which approach would be more effective. The major environmental difference in recent years is MLB implementing international spending caps. This restriction means if you swing for the fences on high-dollar 16-year-olds, you have more pressure to be right.
October 2, 2021 at 6:48 am #174129The #stlcards system went 1-1 on Friday as Memphis’ game was cancelled. The Cardinal Nation’s Player of the Day, Dominican Summer League Red DH Jose Rodriguez, slammed a bases-loaded triple in his club’s win over the Cubs Red. (free) https://t.co/At3zXmnvip pic.twitter.com/DOsqscpKZA
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 2, 2021
October 2, 2021 at 7:48 am #174135Surely the absence of the short season rosters will have an effect on the international acquisition/development strategy. Players can’t dawdle waiting to physically mature and turn athleticism into baseball skills. High school draftees will have to be sorted more quickly as well.
October 2, 2021 at 7:50 am #174136bccran
ParticipantBHC – I just finished my annual stat spread sheet of all our minor leaguers, and just shook my head looking at the guys who got the most starts for Springfield.
Worst rotation I can ever remember at any level in the Cards system.October 2, 2021 at 7:59 am #174137
stlcard25ParticipantSomeone mentioned that most of the Cards’ affiliates were among if not the youngest rosters in each league. That could well have something to do with the poor team records.
That said, there are some bright spots but we need Flaherty, Hudson, and Libby to be solid because the depth is a little shaky. Guys like Thomas, Pallante and Woodford may be options for a Memphis shuttle, so hopefully they are able to keep warm and have solid results next year.
October 2, 2021 at 3:38 pm #174168For Memphis, Hicks to start tonight before Liberatore.
October 2, 2021 at 3:50 pm #174169stlcard25 said:
Someone mentioned that most of the Cards’ affiliates were among if not the youngest rosters in each league.
At Triple-A, that is yes, mainly because the Cardinals sign few AAAA journeymen as roster backfill. Youngest pitchers and tied for youngest hitters.
At Double-A, hitting was youngest. However, Springfield’s pitching tied for the second-oldest in the league. Influx of indy league guys had to have an impact.
At High-A, Peoria’s hitting was second youngest and pitching was tied for youngest.
At Low-A, Palm Beach’s hitting was in the middle, but pitching was youngest.October 2, 2021 at 3:58 pm #174170Before getting too excited, I went backward to look at Memphis over time:
2019, youngest hitting and pitching – second place finish.
2018, youngest hitters and pitching in the middle – and they WON the league!
2017, second youngest hitters and youngest pitchers – and they WON the league!So at least at Triple-A, I don’t see 2021 out of the ordinary in terms of youth. But the results were far worse.
I tend to feel the issue is more talent than age.
October 3, 2021 at 8:23 am #174195The #stlcards system was 1-1 in one Saturday contest. Memphis’ game was cancelled for the second consecutive day and the DSL season ended with a Blue win over the Red. TCN’s Player of the Day, Blue DH Leonardo Bernal, was 2-for-3 with an RBI. (free) https://t.co/m7R7z53QW0 pic.twitter.com/ZBmeZShO4J
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 3, 2021
October 3, 2021 at 8:54 am #174198I tend to feel the issue is more talent than age.
If true it shoots down the ‘young for level’ explanation that some are always throwing out there to rationalize poor results.
October 3, 2021 at 8:56 am #174199bccran
ParticipantWith all the pitchers we have in our system, why do we have to bring in guys from independent leagues that are in their mid to late 20s? And watch them get clobbered?
October 3, 2021 at 10:17 am #174201cranny the need for all the scrap heap guys just to fill out the staffs in the upper levels, together with the poor results, says to me there was a huge problem with acquisition/development a few years ago. The pitiful results posted by the lower levels says the problem has not been fixed. Based upon how those lower levels did, there is no good reason to think we will not need a bunch of scrap heap guys to fill out the upper levels in the years ahead.
October 3, 2021 at 11:52 am #174205bccran
ParticipantBB – Maybe it’s not so bad. With only 4 teams now above the Florida Rookie level, that would be 20 starters. And we have the following who may have some promise who are in the pipeline –
At the higher levels –
Woodford
Libby
Oviedo
Rondon
Thompson
Pallante
ThomasAt the lower levels –
McGreevy
Love
Ralston
Prater
Bedell
GraceffoThe trades and the poor performance of Roberts have hurt.
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