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October 3, 2021 at 12:26 pm #174214
I agree we are likely to have some that work out. But given in season attrition there is going to be a lack of depth that will have us dumpster diving for a few years I think, The relievers are in the same shape and I think throwing strikes is really an issue there. I think there was the belief that if we used velocity and spin rate and such as a filter, we could make pitchers out of what we acquired. Ended up with a lot of guys who either couldn’t get it over the plate or got pounded when they did. Or blew out their arm.
October 4, 2021 at 8:27 am #174269The #stlcards system closed 2021 with a comeback win by Memphis in the Triple-A Final Stretch. In relief of Jordan Hicks and Johan Oviedo, Matthew Liberatore faced 10 batters, and with the help of his defense, collected 10 outs. (free) https://t.co/TAR99jDnua pic.twitter.com/xlV3BzN7Fz
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 4, 2021
October 4, 2021 at 8:46 am #174271Under further review, The Cardinal Nation is never done. Our daily #stlcards minors game reports will return in 10 days with the Arizona Fall League. Our 2021 season recaps and top pitchers and hitters by level series continues into Nov. Then comes the 2022 Top 50 Prospect List! https://t.co/WEDt9Qlu4V
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 4, 2021
October 4, 2021 at 9:03 am #174272bccran
ParticipantBB –
How do guys who have had good control in college all of the sudden start walking guys as a pro? Working on new pitches taught by the coaches? Trying to throw secondary pitches with 3 balls in the count for the 1st time?
October 4, 2021 at 10:48 am #174279
stlcard25ParticipantNolan Gorman’s late season slump dropped his OPS under .800 and his wRC+ to just above league average at 106. Still solid for a 21 year old, but he has some room to grow. I still think he’ll be a streaky hitter in the majors a la Tyler O’Neill, only without quite as much power in all likelihood. I don’t like the comp because I’ve never liked the player much but Mike Moustakas seems like a good one.
October 4, 2021 at 6:27 pm #174310bccran
ParticipantGorman was drafted for his power, 25. Google “Gorman home run king again”. He was the number one high school All Star power hitter in the country several years in a row. No reason he can’t come close to duplicating what O’Neill has done.
October 5, 2021 at 6:34 am #174331
stlcard25ParticipantBc, I’m aware that Gorman has really good power. I think he will be a 30-35 HR guy at the MLB level…like Moustakas was a couple of times. O’Neill has shown us that his power is quite prodigious, though. If he’d not been injured he could have been pushing 45 HRs this year. His 142 games played at Memphis have yielded 49 HRs and 110 RBIs. Gorman has great power, O’Neills is elite.
Anyway…my main point is that he will probably be a bit streaky as he’s been every year in the minors. But the hot streaks should be a lot of fun for us fans.
October 5, 2021 at 7:16 am #174332We badly need a left swinging hitter with pop in the lineup. Gorman has a lot fewer PAs in the AA/AAA levels than O’Neill had when he jumped to MLB and I am not convinced Gorman is ready. There is also the question of of whether he will have major trouble with the shift being a left handed batter. Still, if he has a good spring I would not be surprised to see him in STL very early. Most especially if there is a DH next year.
October 5, 2021 at 7:30 am #174333bccran
ParticipantGorman may be a more consistent contact hitter, 25. At AAA, he struck out only 19% of the time. Tyler struck out 27% of the time at AAA.
October 5, 2021 at 8:16 am #174335
stlcard25ParticipantGorman may be a more consistent contact hitter, 25. At AAA, he struck out only 19% of the time. Tyler struck out 27% of the time at AAA.
That’s a fair point, bc. Gorman did seem to improve the K rate at Memphis. If that’s for real, he could be a true star at the big league level.
October 5, 2021 at 8:33 am #174337bccran
ParticipantCan’t wait for a MOTO of Carlson, Goldschmidt, O’Neill, Arenado, and Gorman. With Yepez and Burleson alternated in the DH slot.
Would like to see Edman concentrate on upping his OBP and becoming a true leadoff hitter.
October 5, 2021 at 9:07 am #174338
stlcard25ParticipantCan’t wait for a MOTO of Carlson, Goldschmidt, O’Neill, Arenado, and Gorman. With Yepez and Burleson alternated in the DH slot.
Would like to see Edman concentrate on upping his OBP and becoming a true leadoff hitter.
That’s where adding a guy like Seager for leadoff would be so huge. The lineup would be quite formidable for several years. It would cost but could be very worth it.
October 5, 2021 at 9:39 am #174343cranny, what positions would you see Edman and Gorman playing to be in the everyday lineup together?
October 5, 2021 at 12:51 pm #174352bccran
Participant25 – Probably Edman as SS and Gorman at 2B. Some may not know, but Edman was named to the All Pac 12 defensive team at SS his junior year.
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