Why is blaze jordan not on 40 man?

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  • #308807
    grayssportsalmanac
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    Are we just tanking and floating? If so I don’t like it but I get it- I always rooted for Gorman but why not at least give him a shot? He has to be almost 24 at this point- rant over.

    #308810
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    I don’t upstand why myself? With Gorman struggling, I think they should give Jordan a chance. You can dfa Pozo or Fermin. They should add Rajcic too. Both are rule 5 eligible. Roycroft has only 1 option left, and I don’t think anyone will claim him.

    #308822
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    It might be that Jordan is an MLB third baseman like Albert was an MLB third baseman. Doable for a year to get his bat in the lineup until you can open up 1B. In that case they could go ahead and get him in there and see how his bat translates to MLB and then decide what to do.

    #308825
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    Great name too! Blaze Jordan – just sounds good.

    You guys make a good case for him to be given a shot. My guess is they will keep the status quo until either they fall out of contention, or Gorman gets injured.

    #308827
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    Haha…Yeah, “Blaze” is a lot better than, Blase’…Whatever happened to Tink? I was never crazy about that moniker. Sounds a little like a fake crystal wine glass…

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    Brian Walton
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    #308839
    bicyclemike
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    Man, and we thought Walker was a bust. He is showing some life this year, but Gorman – oh my.

    Yeah 1TD – I mentioned in a post one time that the reason Hence is so fragile is that nickname. I proposed changing it to “Tank” Hence, and we would then have a latter day Don Drysdale on our hands – guy capable of 300 innings per year for a decade. 😄

    #308854
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    I’d like to see what Blaze Jordan’s third base defense looks like. I’ve been spoiled by Nolan Arenado and Scott Rolen. Will we ever see a third baseman like either of those guys again? Rolen would have finished his career in St. Louis were it not for his head case of a manager. I’ve had enough of Gorman even though he does look like he has star power once in awhile. Saggese at least plays with some enthusiasm, but he’s not a long term answer. I’d like to see Gorman and ‘who knows’ traded for a top third base prospect.

    #308870
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    The only problem at this point is that Gorman is probably only a thrown in on any trade. He might be had as a non tender at the end of this season.

    #308873
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    I’m showing my age here, but don’t forget Ken Reitz when you list slick fielding Cardinals 3rd basemen. NOT quite an Arenado or Rolen, but he probably deserved a gold glove or 2 that Mike Schmidt got in part because of his hitting.

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    I agree Jedi. I would like to see Kenny Reitz get more consideration for the Cardinal HOF. I know that his offense doesn’t really support it but he was a great defender.

    #308895
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    Ken Reitz = The Zamboni! (quote from By rememberyourredbirds on STLRedbirds.com)

    “Zamboni” captured exactly what he did: smooth over the chaos.

    Ken Reitz: The Cardinals’ Zamboni

    #308897
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    Seemed like Reitz always started the season on fire, hitting like .380 into mid-May. He would eventually fall back and finish around .260.

    Slow as can be, but smart player and popular with the fans as he was a hustler and played with a lot of enthusiasm.

    #308899
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    Blaze looked terrible in spring training. He’s still young, but I wouldn’t bring him up until September. I don’t think he is ready for the show. I know we are all in a hurry to get rid of Gorman. But Blaze ain’t the answer right now. I think the Cardinals should bring up Ramon Mendoza if they are gonna call anyone up. Bloom treats his 40 man spots like gold, so I don’t expect Gorman to be DFA’d anytime soon.

    #308902
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    I think above is the best course of action. Gorman continues to OPS under .700 in Septemeber I think that pretty much tells you what exactly you have. You release him and then if you want a look at Jordan you give him the roster spot and runway in September.

    This is also assuming we end up falling back into a team amny thought it would be in a rebuilding year.

    Even if for some reason this team is in the hunt for a WC by the deadline. I could see them dealing May and Noot assuming Noot stays on the field. They may get some near ready plug in play as a return.

    #308917
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    I like Blings idea. I don’t think Blaze will ever be a third baseman but stand him out there and see how his bat plays. He doesn’t strike out. Than play him at first next year if he hits. If they traded Donnie they trade Burly.

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    If we trade Burly I would make Herrera the 1B since we have a dozen or so minor league catchers knocking on the door.

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    I am not in favor of trading Burleson. We have a lot of years of control in him. And everyone is talking about extensions for JJ and Winn, but Burleson should be included in that list as well. But maybe you settle the labor contract first, then lock up our best players. If I was looking at trading anyone for pitching it would be Herreras. We have a surplus of catchers, and catching prospects.

    #308964
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    I am not in favor of trading either one. Burly and Herrera should both be long term core players in my opinion. I was just saying that if Burly was traded for some reason I would put Herrera at 1B over Jordan.

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    We don’t have a lot of years control of Burleson. 27&28. 2 years same as Donnie. Burleson can’t hit lefties or field anywhere but first. He will be blocking someone better by the time he is a fa. Donovan was a much better player and we traded him.

    #308972
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    I hear that Blaze has some issues with swinging at stuff outside the strike zone too much. Might not be an issue in AAA, but something MLB guys will exploit. I wonder if there is any chance of Ramon Mendoza being a callup, not as a long term solution, but to give Gorman time at AAA to try to right the ship. Mendoza has an OPS of .817 at Memphis and kept playing with the big leaguers for a long time in spring. But he’s not on the 40 man.

    #308975
    Brian Walton
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    Check Jordan’s K rate in the Player of the Month article. Both K and walk rates low, like Prieto.

    #308977
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    to give Gorman time at AAA to try to right the ship.

    We can quit pretending now. Gorman has 1800 ML PAs and its been 3 years since he posted a positive OPS. At this point he would be a good depth glove stashed at AAA, but in recognition of his service and effort I hope the Cardinals give him a chance to catch on with another organization, the sooner the better.

    #308996
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    We don’t have a lot of years control of Burleson. 27&28. 2 years same as Donnie. Burleson can’t hit lefties or field anywhere but first. He will be blocking someone better by the time he is a fa. Donovan was a much better player and we traded him.

    I’m not sure who he is actually blocking other than Herrera possibly.

    They traded Donnie because they were in tear it down mode last offseason. We don’t know if that will be the case this upcoming offseason. They also had Wetherholt ready to step in despite some odd claims that he should start the year in Memphis.

    #308997
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    The question is…is Burleson a long term piece or just a guy that you keep as long as he’s cheap and then move on? Given that he can’t hit lefties at all, I’m more inclined to put him in the 2nd group. Maybe he’ll change that in the next couple years. But for now, he’s Matt Adams to me. I’m not sure that means he should be traded, but a guy like Gurevitch could easily be ready to fill that spot in 2-3 years.

    Herrera seems like a legit good hitter and I hope he’s around for the next 5 years to play DH/1B/C.

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