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Is Bader a different player today than the one who played in almost 300 games from 2017-2019?
Is Kolten Wong the same hitter today he was from 2013-2016?
Is Matt Carpenter the same hitter today he was from 2012-2018?
As for Carlson being a priority – why is his playing time a priority over winning?
Remember that .945 ops? 9 AB’s later it’s at .796.
Would you agree that it is easier for a player to get on a roll when playing everday rather than getting one PA per game?
And why bench Bader as soon as he gets on a roll? That makes no sense. Think of all the years we played a player who is terrible at defense, simply because he was hitting. Here, we have a player who is great at defense, and who was starting to hit, and they benched him. What kind of signal does that send to the player? A .945 OPS isn’t good enough to keep you in the lineup, so we’ll replace you with a guy with a .501 OPS?
The Cards changed the lineup when they weren’t scoring many runs. Since they took Bader and O’Neill out of the lineup they’re hitting, scoring runs, and winning. Is it a coincidence?
Actually, there is a difference between causation and correlation.
Most off the uptick in offense recently has come from B. Miller, Yadi, Goldy, Edman, DeJong, Fowler, and Wong. None of them have anything to do with Bader. The guys playing in place of Bader are Carp, Carlson, and O’Neill/Thomas. I don’t know how that is justified.
O’Neill clearly has a higher offensive upside than Bader. Carlson has an overall upside superior to both O’Neill and Bader. MO is a Thomas fan. Bader is odd man out.
Bourjos clone. An outfield version of Kozmanot.Upside doesn’t feed the bulldog. It is about results. Bader is the best defensive player on the team and was starting to hit well then benched. Mystifying.
Must have been something else, gscottar.
Do you think he’s being disciplined? Maybe broke team rules?Bccran, you need to check your Carlson crush at the door. There is no way Carlson has a better defensive upside to Bader. Also, O’Neill has a better power profile/upside than Carlson.
Management’s reason for not playing Bader when he got hot at the plate is not a mystery, but it is puzzling that they did it. The reason would seem to be that despite good results, management does not believe it was sustainable. They have seen enough of Bader to think that this was an anomoly.
But when you quit playing the guy, you really don’t know if it was truly a fluke, or if he was figuring some things out, gaining confidence, and could get back to where he was earlier in his career.
With Carlson there is not much history, so the thought every day is “this will be the day we start seeing results”. But it looks like they finally have put the brakes on that.
There is a fairly consistent disagreement between how I think the club should handle the young players, and how management handles them. I would not have rushed either Hicks nor Carlson to the bigs when the club did. I would have played Tommy Pham earlier. I would be playing O’Neill now. I would have ridden the Bader hot streak longer.
But hey, I am wrong sometimes too. I would have not traded Shelby Miller, and he ended up flaming out. Such is life – an imperfect universe.
Check my Carlson crush at the door, Forsch? There are approximately 6,500 minor leaguers during a normal season. Going into 2020, Carlson was ranked the #17 prospect overall by mlb.com. When they selected the all minor league outfield, he was one of the 3. Guess you weren’t aware of that.
The eye game says carlsson isnt all that they have touted him to be. He has a great stroke if the pitcher sends him a fastball especially down the middle but not so much otherwise. Outside of 18 games at memphis, he is about an average hitter at best. Im not saying he will be a bust but im not sold that hes the true answer for a lot of offense out of an outfield spot.
No, Willie, you want someone who can analyze how pitchers are working you and make the proper adjustments. That’s what smart, successful hitters do.
maybe but he hasnt done that yet. Maybe he never will. Maybe in that 18 games at memphis he was just hot. Maybe what we are seeing, is the real carlsson. You want the guys who you think are thinkers, you can have em, they end up being average not really successful hitters. Ill take the natural born hitters that just naturally adjust without all that overthinking.
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