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June 11, 2024 at 8:48 pm #255916
jj-cf-stlParticipant3-hit night for Burly. Hes finding grass.
June 11, 2024 at 8:54 pm #255918Helsey has pitched much worse lately. Hopefully he can get a couple of Ks here to get out of this
June 11, 2024 at 8:58 pm #255919That attempted force at HP was a little shoddy on both ends.
June 11, 2024 at 9:04 pm #255920No doubter from Gorman to get it back to 1
June 11, 2024 at 9:10 pm #255921Arenado and Herrera both flailing away at letter high fastballs.
June 11, 2024 at 9:16 pm #255922We should have won that. Multiple small little mistakes and we lose by 1
June 11, 2024 at 9:19 pm #255923Mikolas is simply cursed. Over his time with the Cards, they’ve given him exactly zero runs in nearly 40% of his starts.
Not sure we wanted our worst hitter up with the game on the line but the only alternative was Carlson from the left side. Call that a toss up decision.
June 11, 2024 at 9:26 pm #255924Cardinals out hit the Pirates 8 to 3, but when your closer enters a scoreless game in the 9th and BB’s 2 of the first 3 hitters he faces, you expect to lose the game.
June 11, 2024 at 10:13 pm #255928Bad teams find ways to lose! We have now given away two of the last three games! I think some on this team have just accepted losing!
June 12, 2024 at 5:16 am #255930Why was Herrera not in the game. We had a day off after a day game. We have a weak enogh lineup without taking a regular out of the lineup for no good reason.
June 12, 2024 at 5:43 am #255931Every single is a double with Herrera catching. One of the many issues for this team. I’ve accepted that anywhere close to 500 is the best this team will do. I expect worse.
June 12, 2024 at 7:39 am #255939
jj-cf-stlParticipantPages caught the day game Sunday also. Herrera started Saturday. Reset? Coach him up?
June 12, 2024 at 7:57 am #255940
jj-cf-stlParticipantWe sat Carlson this game, who was starting to contribute. Siani got the start right thru the final out.
Siani has 26 June PA’s and Carlson 21. They may be around equal if Dylan starts tonight, and Michael doesn’t. Siani has a .384 ops for June and Carlson .702 .
If Carlson cools off while playing, that’s on him. Play him Oli. Don’t let him cool off on the bench.
June 12, 2024 at 8:09 am #255941JJ we agree on many things. Carlson still has a chance to be an above average outfielder. Siani doesn’t. Play Carlson every day. Haven’t they seen this guy enough to know that he requires consistent playing time?
June 12, 2024 at 8:18 am #255943
jj-cf-stlParticipantMikolas logs a GmSc of 80. We have had low 70’s from Gibson and Gray, but the 80 tops the club this season. Miles shaved a half-run off his ERA.
It was 7 starts ago when Miles allowed 6 ER to the NYM.
In his last 6 GS, covering 36 IP, Miles has averaged a GmSc of 60, an ERA of 3.00, FIP of 3.83 and allowed an ops of .567 vs 134 batters.
June 12, 2024 at 8:34 am #255944Play Carlson every day.
That has been tried numerous times, always with the same result. He gets hurt or tanks or both.
June 12, 2024 at 9:07 am #255947Yea Bling Carlson was going good and Walker steamrolled him. That was his fault.
Some genius decided Bloneil was a centerfielder. Carlson worked hard that winter and came into camp and played well. Got benched anyway. Carlson is just another development failure. Go ahead, give him away. He will have the last laugh.June 12, 2024 at 9:08 am #255948It likely was, as the CF is in charge. But no matter, its always something with him.
June 12, 2024 at 9:09 am #255949
jj-cf-stlParticipantYah, well, we got a game today and two choices for CF. Reality bites.
June 12, 2024 at 9:12 am #255950It likely was, as the CF is in charge. But no matter, its always something with him
Your right and that something is getting screwed by the Cardinals.
June 12, 2024 at 9:15 am #255951
jj-cf-stlParticipantI wonder if Ivan is demoted when Willson returns? TBD. Seems there’s a track meet when Ivan catches.
June 12, 2024 at 10:32 am #255956We use our A team out of the bullpen and still lose. Double whammy.
As for Herrera, I think the coaching staff/front office is figuring out that he can’t catch, although they said the same thing about Contreras last year. Regardless, if the staff has soured on him it might be time to sell high and trade him when Contreras comes back. At least his bat profiles as a nice backup catcher.
June 12, 2024 at 12:21 pm #2559691982 willie
ParticipantCarlson was always over valued in my opinion. Does that make him bad? No. Hes just your average run of the mill outfielder. Hes had some bad luck but you can only carry that excuse so long.
June 12, 2024 at 12:47 pm #255973Run of the mill platoon player.
June 12, 2024 at 2:10 pm #255984Carlson has had tons of chances to be an everyday player. He just can’t get it done.
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