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June 9, 2024 at 1:51 pm #255690
There are 3 things I always liked about Pages watching him in the minors. He plays excellent defense with a good arm. He is a leader on the field – he’s like a general out there directing what is supposed to happen. And the last thing is that while he’s not a good hitter at all, he always seems to find a way to get guys moved over with sacrifices or getting one big hit when it’s needed most. He was always amongst my favorites in the minors for these reasons.
June 9, 2024 at 2:08 pm #255692Unless I am mistaken, Pages plays with his knee on the ground rather than in a crouch. Even with runners on, and even with runners in scoring position. That can work and look good in the minors. It doesn’t work in the bigs. I have seen a video clip with commentary from the booth,from earlier where, a ball got past him and a runner scored from third. The commentary was to the effect his ability to move and block is diminished and his ability to go after it is slowed, due to being down like that. If I am mixed up and thinking of someone else, sorry and never mind.
(As a youngster I played catcher enough to know for sure spending the game in a crouch in no fun. There is no way catchers would do it that way for 100 years without good reason.)
June 9, 2024 at 2:08 pm #255693Not really a big surprise with all the opposing traffic on the basepaths, but the Cardinals rank 4th in turning double plays. They’ve also only been victimized 25 times by GIDP’s. No other team in the Big Leagues has grounded into less double plays.
June 9, 2024 at 2:10 pm #255694Addendum: There have always been catchers around who would play like that with the bases empty. Fernando Vina, I think, comes to mind.
Addendum, no not Vina. Tony Pena. I am getting soft in the head.
June 9, 2024 at 2:13 pm #255695
jj-cf-stlParticipantYah, Manny was the first i saw knee down. Some can, some can’t.
June 9, 2024 at 2:14 pm #255696
jj-cf-stlParticipantI’ll butcher Sanguillen? You know him
June 9, 2024 at 2:16 pm #255697
jj-cf-stlParticipantBench catching one handed was rather foreign at the time.
June 9, 2024 at 2:20 pm #255698
jj-cf-stlParticipantCha-Ching!
Cha-Ching!
4-0 StLJune 9, 2024 at 2:22 pm #255700Winn’s delivered all season long and if he continues to do so I don’t know how he can’t be given serious consideration for NL ROY.
June 9, 2024 at 2:25 pm #255701
jj-cf-stlParticipant8 hits, Gorman lacks one.
June 9, 2024 at 2:28 pm #255702
jj-cf-stlParticipantWinn doubles the lead w/a 2out single, after Sinai’s sacrifice bunt moves both runners, and Pages into scoring position.
June 9, 2024 at 2:47 pm #255703I think it was more bad hitting today than good pitching from Pallante. It was interesting that Colorado kept as many lefties out there against him since the book on Pallante is that right handers shell him. He was good enough though and the results in the end look great.
June 9, 2024 at 2:55 pm #255705
jj-cf-stlParticipantThe last StL starter to record 5 scoreless IP was Pallante on May 29th, when he went 6 scoreless, two turns ago.
June 9, 2024 at 3:05 pm #255706With this warm-fuzzy game I guess I should mention I enjoyed some good old spaghetti bolognaise for din-din with a crispy green salad and finished with a lovely slice of chocolate-raspberry cake from the local village patisserie. Yum!
June 9, 2024 at 3:11 pm #255707
jj-cf-stlParticipantPallante faced their lineup twice and put 5 scoreless on the books?
Maybe I’ll start a thread 😉
June 9, 2024 at 3:15 pm #255709If anyone needs a pick me up, Waldrup, the starter the Braves took a few picks after Davis, made his debut and was rocked for 7 ER in 3.2 IP. I feel 1% better about Flores now.
June 9, 2024 at 3:17 pm #255710JJ – Excellent idea. Then you could claim how you scouted Pallante and knew he’d be good – even when he’s sometimes not.
June 9, 2024 at 3:29 pm #255712Bling – here’s the offensive performance of our latest draft.
Player/Age/Level/OPS
Davis/22/PB/.602
Honeyman/22/FCL/1.192
Levenson/22/Peo/.684
Harris/22/Peo/.664
Jobert/23/PB/.584
Sullivan/23/Peo/.462
Richardson/22/Peo/.483
Paige/23/PB/.762
Tarlow/22/Peo/.481Not a lot to like there. Honeyman just started playing after injury and he’s at the lowest level rehabbing.
June 9, 2024 at 3:32 pm #255713“Deathball” has come back to life.
June 9, 2024 at 3:35 pm #255715Of the 15 teams that comprise the NL, only 4 of them are above .500.
June 9, 2024 at 3:38 pm #255717Not a whole lot better in the AL, with only 6 teams above .500. I guess MLB thought an abundance of second rate teams would attract more baseball fans.
June 9, 2024 at 4:08 pm #255721Looks like it’s back to a 5 way tie for the final NLWC although there’s a pct. pt. discrepancy…Is that something that’s reviewable?
June 9, 2024 at 4:57 pm #255725A crisp 2:15 game. Pallante with a good game, so next time he will be shelled. Maybe skipping the next start will work.
Seems like Benny Santiago was the first catcher I recall that crouched way down with a knee or leg on the ground. But maybe it was Tony Peña.
June 9, 2024 at 4:59 pm #255727…..that list of ‘23 draftees is not exactly showing a lot of hope for the future on the offensive side.
June 9, 2024 at 5:02 pm #255728Getting a win today is better than getting a loss but overall getting a split at home against one of the worst teams in baseball isn’t going to cut it. We still have no reason to believe the Cardinals can achieve any kind of sustained success.
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