StL 2024 Game #115 thread – Wednesday, August 7 vs. Rays

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    Fernandez has no command. They need to take him out of the game.

    #263442
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    So, of course they leave him in.

    #263443
    jj-cf-stl
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    I at least wanted him vs cleanup and maybe another, then hand the pen 6,7,8

    #263444
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    Somehow escaped with only one run scored.

    #263445
    jj-cf-stl
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    Bet that hurts! Just getting 1 run.

    #263446
    Brian Walton
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    I figured the broadcasters jinxed Fernandez’ appearance by the heavy praise when he came in, but to his credit, he got out of the jam with only one run in when it looked like it would be a lot worse.

    #263447
    jj-cf-stl
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    5-2 StL after 6

    #263448
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    The Redbirds escape with what’s still a pretty decent 3 run cushion, but the Cardinal manager came real close to once again demonstrating why I think he’s a genuine liability. I’ll never understand the logic of jumping the gun on removing a SP’er who’s in complete command and has only labored through 93 pitches. The little whiz-kid almost burned another one.

    #263449
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    He was getting himself in trouble with his fastball, they switched to throwing sliders – except for the pitch that scored the run, which was another fastball.

    #263450
    jj-cf-stl
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    Oli using Fernandez early in low lev.

    #263451
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    Oli using Fernandez early in low lev.

    Which became high leverage due to a lack of command on his fastball.

    #263452
    jj-cf-stl
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    I haven’t kept up with Armstrongs usage, maybe it ties in.

    #263454
    Brian Walton
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    All I can think of right now is Eric, don’t call me Harry, Rasmussen…

    #263455
    Brian Walton
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    1td, did you see my stats on Fedde on page 1 of this thread? 93 pitches is actually over his season average. Tonight did not seem like a situation to push him beyond his norm, IMO, though Fernandez almost made it look bad.

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    Cards win 2nd of twelve in a row. Come back for another victory tomorrow night.

    #263457
    jj-cf-stl
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    Game Ball to Nolan Arenado

    #263459
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    Yeah, I saw the part about 93 pitches. I don’t believe in lucky or unlucky numbers…In my view the proper approach is to have some confidence in your horse and send him out there to start the inning. Keep him under a watchful eye and if he shows the slightest tendency to falter, go and get him.

    #263460
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    Fernandez has no command. They need to take him out of the game.

    Fernandez has been very hittable since June 19th with a 4.35 FIP Since July he has an FIP in the 5’s. That’s not a good trend.

    He has been very steady for us but they may want to pull him back a bit. Easier said seeing as were in position for a WC and we seem to play close. We’ll see.

    This team is not out of anything. Atlanta is in real danger. IMO

    #263472
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    I don’t know it this is true but it sure seems like all but a handful of teams are pretty garbage this year.

    #263474
    Brian Walton
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    For me, Fedde’s first start didn’t suggest he should yet be considered a “horse,” although some may have called him a certain part of said animal. 😉

    I do agree that it would be great if starters averaged more than 89 pitches per outing, but that is what Fedde apparently is. The difference last night is that he was less efficient than when he was with the Sox so he hit that pitch count through five innings. We will see what his start no. 3 brings…

    #263476
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    What does our pen availability for tonight look like?

    #263477
    bicyclemike
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    The Braves have really faltered. They no doubt miss Strider a lot, plus they have some guys on offense not hitting anywhere close to what they did last year.

    Still a long haul for our club. Several teams ahead of us for the wild card, and six out of the division. Not to mention a tough road ahead.

    By the numbers our guys will be working on their golf game in October. But you never know. I have been following this site where a guy is posting game-by-game of the 1964 season, putting together a write up of each game as it corresponds to 2024. That ’64 club looked dead at this time of the year. They were playing a little better, but the pennant odds were about 2%.

    And we all probably remember 2011, when in early September we were well out of any post season chance, but the bullpen got settled with Jason Motte moved to the closer role and the Braves stumbled, opening the door for us to sneak in.

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    Bling – my best guess would be no Helsley or Kittredge and a hesitancy to use Fernandez. Look for King , Liberatore, and Armstrong to throw in any kind of close game and Leahy to be used otherwise. Romero is probably the de facto closer should it come to that.

    #263482
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    Liberatore & Armstrong have two of the three worst ERA’s on the team.

    I agree, Helsley is probably a no-go. But Kittredge pitched two outs last night.

    #263484
    jj-cf-stl
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    Yah, I’d group Leahy with King in the 7-8th innings for holds, and use the other two as “otherwise”.

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