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July 23, 2019 at 7:00 pm #99049
25, have to call out your lumping of Helsley with Webb and Mayers. Helsley not only has pitched extremely at the ML level (small sample size) he also has greater upside both has a starter and a reliever.
July 23, 2019 at 7:16 pm #99050With a week to go in July, Goldschmidt already has as many RBI (19) as in his prior two best months as a Cardinal together.
July 23, 2019 at 7:23 pm #99051Yowza!
July 23, 2019 at 7:24 pm #99052At blue jays Indians game. Man Mercado would look good in a cardinals uniform
July 23, 2019 at 7:42 pm #99054Archer burned by hot Cafe. Cards up 4-3 in the fifth.
July 23, 2019 at 7:47 pm #99055
stlcard25ParticipantHudson staked to a lead and trying to hand it right back. Looking just like the first inning…two on and none out in the 5th.
July 23, 2019 at 7:56 pm #99056
stlcard25ParticipantWhat a magic trick by Hudson. No runs for the Pirates after having the bases loaded and none out. Guess they were channeling their inner Cardinals.
July 23, 2019 at 7:56 pm #99057
stlcard25ParticipantI can’t compare Helsley to Webb. One is a minor league veteran who has bounced around a few teams. Helsley, IMO, ought to be tried as a starter. At a minimum, Helsley would look awfully good in the late innings, as a high octane fastball guy. Webb is only slightly better than Shreve.
25, have to call out your lumping of Helsley with Webb and Mayers. Helsley not only has pitched extremely at the ML level (small sample size) he also has greater upside both has a starter and a reliever.
Long term, I agree that they don’t belong together as comparables. Helsley is a potential starter or good reliever. But *this year*, I’ll defend my statement…all three are average relievers. Helsley is trying to come back from injury and has a 5+ ERA at Memphis with only slightly better peripherals. His MLB peripherals aren’t that great either in that small sample. It would not be wise to suggest that he’ll suddenly become an above average reliever this year. Next year or beyond…sure. Webb and Mayers are also average types who won’t kill you but are not going to be much above average without a lot of luck either. Any of them could be upgraded to the benefit of the ‘pen.
Shreve is below average and not even a good LOOGY.
July 23, 2019 at 7:56 pm #99058Hudson lucky to survive the 5th. Now squeeze one or two more innings out of him.
July 23, 2019 at 8:09 pm #99059A 7-pitch 6th for Hudson.
July 23, 2019 at 8:17 pm #99060Wouldn’t mind having at least one more run. Maybe, O’Neil will break out of his mini-slump ahead of Wieters, DeJong, and Wong.
July 23, 2019 at 8:19 pm #99061
stlcard25ParticipantHudson out after just 84 pitches. Frazier has managed to outfox him today but I’d like to see the bullpen rested a little more.
July 23, 2019 at 8:20 pm #99062Interesting that they didn’t want Hudson facing Frazier, Reynolds, and Marte again.
July 23, 2019 at 8:22 pm #99063
stlcard25ParticipantAn excellent play by Edman steals a hit from Frazier. Nicely done.
July 23, 2019 at 8:30 pm #99064Pirates’ TV announcers (Blass and Brown) went on and on over the Edman play. Brown even threw in “….. and without disrespecting Matt Carpenter …. he can’t make that play …” They were actually gushing over the play.
July 23, 2019 at 8:33 pm #99065
stlcard25ParticipantWouldn’t 6 up, 6 down be pretty great right now?
July 23, 2019 at 8:35 pm #99066Was hoping the Cards would add on against Stratton. That guy has been awful this year and the Cards couldn’t make a dent in two innings. Now I have a bad feeling for this game. If Gallegos holds them down in the 8th, who gets the 9th? Miller, Gant?
July 23, 2019 at 8:37 pm #99067Gallegos is outstanding again with a quiet 8th. One more inning to go.
July 23, 2019 at 8:39 pm #99069
stlcard25ParticipantMaybe Miller? Dickerson leads off, but it will be righties after that until Frazier.
July 23, 2019 at 8:42 pm #99071I would start off with Miller for sure.
July 23, 2019 at 8:44 pm #99072
stlcard25ParticipantStratton with the nearly immaculate inning, only thwarted by Wong’s two strike groundout. He struck out Munoz and Bader in what may be a career outing.
July 23, 2019 at 8:44 pm #99073Miller will start the 9th. I will enjoy the cub-Giants game much more if the Cards hang on.
July 23, 2019 at 8:46 pm #99075
stlcard25ParticipantMelky Cabrera pinch hits and flies out. One down.
July 23, 2019 at 8:50 pm #99077
stlcard25ParticipantGameday shows the first four pitches to Newman were strikes. Two were called balls. Now it becomes a foul ball battle and Newman finally lines out to Dejong.
July 23, 2019 at 8:53 pm #99078Good work by Miller to save it. Three up, three down. Final 4-3.
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