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Well things aren’t looking good ladies and gents. We have now lost 4 in a row and are 4-7 in our last 11. I hope we aren’t spiraling to below .500 soon. Someone needs to step up.
Yeah, how’d you like to left for dead prior to playing the first game of a season against the Cubbies? I don’t think that’s ever happened before…
I hope today’s game and the sweep does not signal our return to mediocrity. The run up to 9 over .500 was exciting and fun to watch. Feeling good feels good.
This loss wasn’t as heartbreaking as the previous two. We were only outscored by 5 runs in this series, but it felt like 20, as it seemed(and maybe it was) like they totally dominated us in every facet of the game. It’s times like these when I reflect back to our 2006 world championship club whom endured not one 8 game losing streak……but two. All is not lost.
Yeah, those two losses on Monday and Tuesday were the punch in the gut sort of losses that seem to sometimes set a precedent. The team looked flat and lifeless in this afternoon’s game and it almost seemed to be like an ugly carryover or fallout from those first two games. Hopefully they’ll snap out of it in Milwaukee or they could be buried before they even suit up for a game against the first place Cubbies on the 23rd. That’s the reality.
Anybody ever say that before?
Just you on repeat and the numbers pretty much disagree other then your precious BA.
It’s not a good look getting swept at home. I think part of it is the starter matchup. Miles was due for a clunker and Libby has not been good the last 3 starts. Pallante pitched ok but that is the one we really blew.
The bats generated timely hits and runs in both of the first two games to overcome 3 run deficits. The arms just couldn’t stand any prosperity. And to the credit of Toronto, they can obviously produce some timely hitting of their own. But like you mentioned, the Blue Jays simply swept the Cardinals from their own yard.
Just a hard look at the numbers tells you hitting wasnt the issue this series. Def pitching though their pitching wasnt much better. I dont really think u can reach big conclusions from this series.
(Libby) he continues to look like the same pitcher that I first laid eyes on in ’22. How long do the Cardinals stay with him if he doesn’t show any signs of improvement?
1TD, I normally understand your opinions and am generally on board, but I don’t agree with this one. I wasn’t able to watch today, but I’ve watched most of Libby’s other starts this year and he looks much improved from prior years. Much more poise and his command is greatly improved. Lately though he has lost some of the command, but I’m guessing the workload change is getting to him as he is on pace for quite doubling his innings total from last year.
Well, what I was driving at, Albert, is that at this juncture of the season he’s hit a skid of 3 consecutive losing decisions in 3 turns in which he’s allowed 16 ER’s in 14 innings of work which is well over 10 ER’s per 9. He’s shown flashes of success in previous seasons only to quickly revert back to being far less than effective. My thinking was that he very well may be reverting to past form, which may or may not be the case. We’ll know more when he takes his next turn in the rotation. I mentioned the fact that he’s still young, but the clock always moves clockwise and if he’s going to stay around for a substantial amount of time, he’ll have to prove that he can work effectively in a reasonably consistent manner. In my view, he has yet to display that he can.
It’s his arm, not his past. He came out w/95.5 mph and it gradually degraded to 91 his last inning. I’m more concerned with Libby building endurance, thru IP. It will be interesting to watch how they manage his innings going forward. The current 6man rotation works in his favor.
I fear Libby will always be a bottom of the rotation guy, with occasional flashes before returning to his dull reality.
CIF, pretty sure that’s what Liberatore is and has always been! A pitcher with a losing record and a 4+ ERA who shows just enough good in his outings to keep getting chances! We can’t win big with him in the rotation IMO!
I can show those same bad starts for every rotation member, and Libby would favor considerably from it.
Gorman has hit for a .683 ops this season and many are ready to move on. Libby has allowed a .682 ops to every batter he has faced this season, but he’s not cutting it? Imagine that.
Perhaps we could offer them both up as a package, then sit back and watch as the amazing offers pour in.
I’m not yet at all ready to quit on Liberatore, but someone mentioned that he’s a pitcher with a 4+ ERA. Well, his career ERA is a lot closer to 5 than it is to 4 and he’s rapidly trending toward that mark at a juncture of the season in which I’ve seen him do the precise same thing in years past.
Someone said we would be developing this season. Libby and Gorman were mentioned too.
But, if we are still pretending to contend, Libby is a legit candidate to get traded while we “look to get lucky” once again.
We can debate on here whether are not we should either continue trying with Liberatore and Gorman are give up? What I don’t think is debatable at this point is by trying to develop them we have greatly reduced any trade value they had 3 years ago!
I hope you haven’t had to endure too many sleepiness nights over the past 3yrs Steve!
Going forward has my attentiion, and it looks to be a bumpy ride.
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