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August 17, 2025 at 4:03 pm #290740
jj-cf-stlParticipantlate and close…
August 17, 2025 at 4:05 pm #290741The team played pretty solidly for the first 2 months. And to no one’s surprise, our hitting and pitching were better then. But from the 2 month mark on (May 27 forward), Rats is pretty much right. No one can hit.
The Good:
Gorman – 36% above league average
Contreras- 35% above
Burleson – 24% aboveThe Ehh:
Herrera – 1% below league average
Winn – 4% below
Donovan – 7% below
Walker – 7% belowThe Bad:
Pages – 17% below league average
Pozo – 18% below
Nootbaar – 20% below
Arenado – 27% below
Scott – 40% below
Saggese – 62% belowAugust 17, 2025 at 4:06 pm #290742I hope we’ve got our late and close lineup in there.
August 17, 2025 at 4:07 pm #290743Weird on the challenge as the TV broadcast never showed a replay. Usually they show it from several angles.
August 17, 2025 at 4:09 pm #290744Ooo – Saggese with a big two base error to start the ninth. Same impact as having the ghost runner out there.
And then a wild pitch. Man two words for the start of this inning – ugh lee.
August 17, 2025 at 4:15 pm #290745Not the worst thing to walk Stanton and set up a possible DP.
August 17, 2025 at 4:19 pm #290746And again Saggese can’t make the play. He looks like our old dudes softball team out there.
August 17, 2025 at 4:22 pm #290747“I hope we’ve got our late and close lineup in there.”
Looks like we had our “let’s blow this one late” lineup out there.
August 17, 2025 at 4:23 pm #290748Saggese has been horrific at 2B in the big leagues this season, ok at 3B, and really good at SS which is weird because throughout the minors it was mostly the other way around.
August 17, 2025 at 4:23 pm #290749Saggese shouldn’t be in the late and close.
August 17, 2025 at 4:29 pm #290750Church gets blessed with a kind of premium number in 27, rather than one in the 60s like a lot of new guys.
August 17, 2025 at 4:29 pm #290751
jj-cf-stlParticipant“lets blow this one late”
perfectAugust 17, 2025 at 4:29 pm #290752When you make a habit of featuring the dreaded Das Boot, it matters not one bit where you’re situated on the field of play. They make an oven mitt for all 9 positions.
August 17, 2025 at 4:31 pm #290753It appears this season is going to end roughly. No other way to put it. Ugh!
August 17, 2025 at 4:31 pm #290754An ugly series. You give up 24 runs in a three game set, and won’t win too often.
August 17, 2025 at 4:35 pm #290755Yeah, Bikemike, Scott Rolen wore number 27. I’m surprised they gave it to the new kid. Perhaps they allowed Church to have it because it’s Sunday?
August 17, 2025 at 4:44 pm #290756Now at 3 games below sea level which by my count is the low water mark since being 3 under on May 4th.
August 17, 2025 at 4:52 pm #290759Up and down, then up and down.
No reason to think it’ll change one way or the other this year.
I hope Scott’s ankle sprain isn’t severe and that even if it’s mild he does not try to come back too quick. Ankle sprains can take up to six weeks to fully heal and if you don’t let them they can become chronic.
We just have too many guys hitting under .250 to be consistent on offense and too many #4 and #5 pitchers in the starting rotation to get on a roll.
If we had one true #1 SP and 1 really good MOTO bat we could make the playoffs. Two of each and we would win or contend for the division. If Gray was our #3 SP that would be sweet.
I think we have enough of everything else to fill in around those 4 stars so – now we just need to develop, sign, or trade for them, lol.
August 17, 2025 at 4:53 pm #290760Well, at least they squashed us good and didn’t make us suffer through that phantom runner nonsense.
August 17, 2025 at 5:07 pm #290761The Yankees did what they had to do and swept a series on the road against a less than mediocre team to keep pace for a post-season berth in the AL. After a good start they’re fighting for survival. I’m more than a little surprised Boone is still managing that baseball team. It’s my guess he’ll be placed in the soup line over the winter.
August 17, 2025 at 5:17 pm #290762And stop the presses…The Brewers lost their first game of this month by a final score of 3-2 in extras at Cincinnati. The last time they failed to place a game in the W column was on July 30th when they lost by a final of 10-3 to the Cubs which narrowed their lead in the NLC to a slim 1 game over the Cubbies.
August 17, 2025 at 5:20 pm #290763And the Cubs won 4-3 over the Pirates at Wrigley Field.
The Brewers now have an eight (8) game lead over the Cubs as they start a five game series at Wrigley with a day/night DH on Monday.
August 17, 2025 at 5:33 pm #290764We just have too many guys hitting under .250
Besides that, we have too many guys, almost everybody, that is managing to hit at or over .250 with woefully low OBP. Winn .318, Burly .336, Pozo .297, Saggese .286. Add in the OBPs of the below .250 BA guys, Noot .326, Gorman .319, Walker .286. None of that rightfully belongs in a ML lineup unless its maybe one gold glove up the middle guy. There is Donovan and Herrera who can get on base.
August 17, 2025 at 5:41 pm #290766You don’t have to be able to get a hit 3 out of 10 times, but you can’t just walk back to the dugout 7 out of 10 times. There is a vacancy of fundamental baseball skills.
August 17, 2025 at 6:39 pm #290767I wonder if the Cubs have ever swept an opponent in a 5 game series at Wrigley? There was a time when it seemed as though the Cardinals played at least one 5 game series every season. In fact, I clearly recall listening and watching the radio and TV broadcasts as they swept a 5 game series from the Mets at old Shea Stadium in Sept. of ’82 that placed them in the proverbial catbird seat in the old NLE before they went on to claim a WS championship during the following month of that season.
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