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March 16, 2022 at 3:36 pm #180865
Mets, Chasen Shreve Nearing Deal https://t.co/1JAIuWTrwF pic.twitter.com/Rn5PwCshtE
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) March 16, 2022
March 16, 2022 at 3:41 pm #180867What’s the latest on Freddie Freeman? Anybody got any inside scoop on him? Dodgers? Red Sox? Padres?
And last night on the MLB Network they were saying the Rockies are after Kris Bryant.
From everything I have read the leaders for Freeman are the Dodgers, Padres, Red Sox and Rays.
I have heard the chatter on Bryant and the Rockies also. I think the Phillies were in on him at one time but I don’t know if they still are since they signed Schwarber.
March 16, 2022 at 3:51 pm #180868Are the bad contracts that Mozeliak got us into still hamstringing getting top free agent? There are definite needs that need to be addressed.
March 16, 2022 at 6:01 pm #180879Kris Bryant to the Rockies. 7 years, $182M.
He might have some big years out there.
March 16, 2022 at 6:34 pm #180881Giants To Sign Joc Pedersonhttps://t.co/7JpRvLlRwV pic.twitter.com/c5qgGpHY2H
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) March 16, 2022
March 16, 2022 at 11:17 pm #180896Freddie Freeman signs with the Dodgers. 6 years $162M.
March 17, 2022 at 7:00 am #180902Matthew Boyd to the Giants for only 2.3M. That might end up being the best value signing this off-season.
I had completely forgotten he was a FA. I was clamoring on here for them to trade for him in 2019.
At this point, trading for Manaea is my preference. Only one year of control, so he shouldn’t cost the farm, they would have a quality starter and it gives them a year to figure out what they have going into 2023. Outside of Matz, there isn’t a single starter who doesn’t have injury/age/control question marks in my opinion.March 17, 2022 at 7:40 am #180905The Dodgers have the top 3 NL MVP candidates, all of whom came from other teams. Betts, Freeman and Turner. They have some deeeeeep pockets, just like the Cards…. NOT!
March 17, 2022 at 7:55 am #180906The Dodgers can outspend the Cards on every level…from scouting to development to front office staff to major league assets. It’s good to be the king. That said, the Cards should be more aggressive at this point. Trade for Manaea, sign Conforto, both…something.
March 17, 2022 at 9:07 am #180908The Dodgers still only have two big long term contracts (Betts and Freeman). They may spend a lot but they don’t box themselves in. They have tons of payroll coming off the books after this year and that is not even counting the Bauer situation where they might be able to get out of that if he is suspended by MLB. Plus, the Dodgers aren’t the top dog anymore with Cohen and the Mets going crazy. Cohen has already said that he thinks the Mets will zoom past the $290M tax threshold.
March 17, 2022 at 9:18 am #180910I love stlcard25’s idea, Manaea will be around $10, Conforto for 3/45? I wouldn’t hate Happ coming back for innings either. Dakota, Mikolas and even Waino aren’t even close to guarantees for 125 innings….
Flaherty’s interview didn’t sound in anyway positive, my feelings on that situation, the glass isn’t half empty, it’s 95% empty.March 17, 2022 at 9:22 am #180913I would bring back both Happ and LeBlanc for depth.
March 17, 2022 at 9:38 am #180915I am not a huge fan of Spotrac, as they can be inconsistent, but here are the payrolls they list as of now.
#1 Mets $249MM
#2 Yankees $241MM
#3 Dodgers $231MM
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#4 Padres $190MM
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#12 Cardinals $141MMAs far as projections for next season, who cares? The Dodgers will just go out and get more players between now and then to fill needs. Since this time last year, they added Max and Trea and Freeman and …
It isn’t like they are going to go cheap all of a sudden. They are in a different league from the Cardinals and it isn’t even close. To be exact, $90MM difference right now. And it is very likely to stay that way.
March 17, 2022 at 9:42 am #180916Well for the one millionth time I will repeat that I never said that the Cardinals spend as much as the Dodgers on an annual basis. I don’t know why you bring it up every time they sign someone.
What I said is that both organizations are similar in a belief of building from within and avoiding too many long term contracts. I still believe that.
March 17, 2022 at 9:52 am #180918My bottom line is how much teams win – along with how much they spend to do it and how they spend it. Both of these teams are consistent winners, but the Dodgers have a different formula to get there – and create higher expectations to go with it. Signing Freeman is another reminder of that (and his $ numbers are not yet reflected in Spotrac).
March 17, 2022 at 10:03 am #180919On the homegrown point, I looked at the Dodgers roster. Including Freeman, they have 11 players making more than $10MM this season. Here is the breakdown of how they were acquired:
Free agents 5
Trades 4
Homegrown 2Of course, they could have used homegrown players in trades, but the vast majority of their front liners came from outside the organization.
I have great respect for the Dodgers. We are just going to have to agree to disagree in that I feel the similarities are far less significant than the differences. When the Dodgers have a need, they spend to fill it. The Cardinals generally don’t. But both find ways to win.
March 17, 2022 at 10:17 am #180923LeBlanc, Happ and Conforto. They would help.
March 17, 2022 at 10:19 am #180924To be more complete, here is the Cardinals’ comparable profile:
If you use the same $10 MM clip, the Cards have five players:
Free agents 1
Trades 2
Homegrown 2If you drop to $6MM (because their total payroll is proportionally lower), the list grows to seven, but the mix is similar:
FA 2
Trades 2
Homegrown 3Just sharing data…
March 17, 2022 at 10:24 am #180927I guess big questions is where is their payroll right now compared to last year?
March 17, 2022 at 10:27 am #180929I haven’t seen 2022 numbers but in 2021 the Dodgers were ranked first in homegrown talent, at least by one publication.
March 17, 2022 at 10:29 am #180930I agree that the Dodgers spend heavier than the Cardinals when a need arises. I have never disputed that but it is also true that they build a very firm foundation by having an elite farm system instead of just building their team by writing checks, which is the stereotype.
March 17, 2022 at 10:31 am #180932To Onyx’s question, Spotrac has the Cards at $141 now vs. $171 last year.
I haven’t seen the annual breakdown of Freeman’s deal, but it averages $27MM per year. That would take the Dodgers to $258 this year ($231 noted above plus $27) vs. $266 last year, using Spotrac numbers.
Arbitration could change these as would roster changes still ahead.
March 17, 2022 at 10:56 am #180933Hearing Rumblings we got our LH bat we dreamed of. Welcome Corey!
March 17, 2022 at 11:03 am #180934well there’s the expected LH hitter
March 17, 2022 at 11:21 am #180941Wow 30mil difference in the difference in total salaries between last year and this, not sure that is acceptable at all….but still some good FA’s out there if they actually go after them!
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