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Just a month at Double-A seems aggressive. But when he is considered ready, there is no one blocking him.
Someone tell me about this Mister Victor Scott?
Strengths?
Weaknesses?
Defensive skills?
Slugger or contact hitter?
Speed?
Arm?
He’s a top notch CF defender – similar to Bader. He is extremely fast. He could conceivably steal 100 bases this year. Probably not, but close anyway. He doesn’t have a lot of power but he can get one over the wall on occasion so maybe a successful Victor Scott hits 15 HR’s a year. He still needs lots of reps before he’s ready to hit at an average MLB level. He’d probably hit .180 if we moved him all the way up today. But he could be ready a year from now. He probably never hits for a great average, but he’ll leg out enough grounders to make him serviceable offensively. His arm is probably average – I’m not sure there honestly. He just moved to AA so give him a little time.
How does he compare to Vince Coleman?
I always thought Vince benefited from playing on the artificial turf. He would slap the ball on the turf and go streaking by 1B before the fielder had a chance.
Well, let’s see. Vince Coleman never hit .300 and yet he stole 100 bases. And his arm wasn’t all that good either. If I recall in Strat-O-Matic Coleman was given a + arm. Which is bad.
Sounds like if Mister Victor could hit .240 or more he might be an offensive catalyst. Especially if he is a very good defender.
I could see the comparison GScottar. Both are left handed hitting outfielders with exceptional speed that came through the Cards organization. And they both have first names that start with a V (if that matters). Scott is a true CF though. Coleman never really seemed to be that great of an OF despite his speed. And you’re absolutely right about the turf helping Vince. I remember him legging out a lot of choppers.
He’s been hot for a month in the Texas League. What else is there to know. Beam him up and chisel him in.
Scott has to be near the top in the minors in stolen bases. With 60 plus SBs. Hitting .330. Not much power, but excellent defense. He would bperfect as our leadoff man wreaking havoc.
It’s interesting to note that Antico and Scott have 100 plus stolen bases.
By all means let him have a look at AAA competition. I’m not a fan of skipping or short shifting levels, but given the state of the MLB team, and AAA depth, I can see the benefit of taking a look at whatever we’ve got that might help. I do object to making lofty assumptions based upon a brief AA stint, but why not find something out since we’ve got the chance.
Scott has to be near the top in the minors in stolen bases. With 60 plus SBs. Hitting .330. Not much power, but excellent defense. He would bperfect as our leadoff man wreaking havoc.
Same thing Cincinnati fans said about Billy Hamilton. While Scott does possess a little more pop than Hamilton, Scott is very aggressive at the plate, doesn’t work counts or take walks. He’s got a ways to go to surpass Donovan or Nootbaar as my leadoff hitter, but there is potential.
“He’s a top notch CF defender – similar to Bader.”
“Not much power, but excellent defense.”I really hope you guys are right. But I haven’t seen any numbers anywhere or read any scouting reports to indicate that Victor’s defense is in any way elite. Baseball Prospectus says he’s mediocre in CF, while Clay Davenport’s numbers are good but far from great. (For context, both websites ranked Harry Bader’s glovework as tremendous in the minors.) I don’t want to pick a fight but can you cite any scouts or other industry sources? Thanks!
“While Scott does possess a little more pop than Hamilton, Scott is very aggressive at the plate, doesn’t work counts or take walks.”
That’s one of the fascinating things about VS2. In Low-A he walked a fairly thrilling 17% of the time! In High-A, it declined to a so-so 9%. Now in Double-A, it’s a completely unacceptable 4%. Which is a big reason why he shouldn’t be rushed to the next level any time soon. His AA batting average is great — but it’s utterly empty, a textbook example of unsustainable (and also likely overrated) hitting performance.
The good news is, the patience he showed in Low-A is inside of him. He doesn’t have an innate aversion to the base on balls. So maybe just maybe if he’s permitted plenty of time at both Springfield and Memphis, he can get that walk rate back to double digits. Then you’ve got a plausible 3-3.5 WAR centerfielder. But for right now, he looks like a 4th OF to me. A very good one, granted. But still a 4th.
Sounds like Scott profiles a bit like Coleman and Maury Wills. Wills was never considered much of a prospect, and ended up an MVP. But he would tell you that batting left handed, all he tried to do was hit the ball on the ground in front of home plate and get those high choppers he could beat out. Wills also was a plus defender at a premium defensive position. No Ozzie, but pretty good.
I like the general trajectory that Scott is on, and agree that even if he’s just 4th OFer there will be excitement there. Like Bob and Brian, I’d share some concerns about his short time in Springfield and the trend on his plate discipline stats, so I’d prefer he gets more minors seasoning.
On the other hand, Michael Harris is an example of a guy who showed that some guys just make it work. Hopefully we get a Harris like impact from Scott (or anyone on the farm) some day.
all he tried to do was hit the ball on the ground in front of home plate and get those high choppers he could beat out.
Wills wouldn’t get too far now days. He’d have to fix his launch angle and such. Same with a guy like Pete Rose. A big guy slapping out singles wouldn’t fly.
That steep drop in Scott’s walk rate might be a byproduct of efforts to optimize his swing. Give it the rest of the season and see what happens. If he doesn’t already have an open stance, he will. Put money on that.
Wills wouldn’t get too far now days. He’d have to fix his launch angle and such. Same with a guy like Pete Rose. A big guy slapping out singles wouldn’t fly.
One of the more exciting players in the game today, Luis Arraez, says otherwise. Guys like Bo Bichette, Steven Kwan, Andrew Benintendi, and others, don’t fit that narrative either. Harrison Bader when he was here had that profile (although he did try to sell out for power at times). There are plenty of guys without big power who can get by on contact, speed and defense. I’d imagine with the new shift rules it will be even more common in the years to come.
Scott’s speed alone makes him a game changer. For a stagnant base to base offense like the Cards, he could make a big difference. Put him in center, and bat him 9th or leadoff. I am fairly confident his walk rate will improve at AA. I would give him a cup of coffee at AAA.
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