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  • #278134
    KeepComingBack
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    I agree JJ. Waiting around for the 3 run bomb bores me. I take naps.

    #278141
    jj-cf-stl
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    I like two walks between two singles! Those WALKS rarely result in a DP.

    #278142
    KeepComingBack
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    The old 3 outcome approach just isn’t fun to watch.

    #278174
    Albert de Morcerf
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    OBP = Others Better Plate (me).

    I’m not sure you understand…a team only has 27 outs. If someone reaches base, they are not making one of those 27.

    Example: Joe Morgan only had a .271 BA. However, he was so valuable because he didn’t make outs like other players. His .392 OBP led to him scoring 1650 runs despite a relatively low BA for a first ballot HOF player.

    #278178
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    HOF’er “Little Joe” Morgan was undoubtedly a great offensive catalyst for several teams during his 22 year career, but I was always surprised to note that he was a player who really struggled during the post-season. In 50 post-season games he went 33 for 181 for a paltry BA of .182 and an OBP of .323. As a lead-off guy in the post-season, he was no Rickey or Lou.

    #278197
    jj-cf-stl
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    Re: #278174
    The bottom two paragraphs aren’t mine. Just the first sentence. Someone tagged on me? Reply? Something.

    #278198
    bicyclemike
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    Joe Morgan was a great on-base guy, with some pop as well. Sparky never had him lead off though – he usually had Pete Rose lead off with Morgan at 3 I believe.

    Before Joe was in Cincy Sparky had Rose and Bobby Tolan at 1 and 2. I always thought back then that he should reverse those two, but hey, Sparky is in the Hall and I am posting on an internet forum. 😀

    #278199
    bicyclemike
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    Thinking of OBP, think I have a new stat that might be one of the best ways to determine a player’s offensive value. Here is the calc:

    OBP + (runs scored + RBI – HR)/PA

    You are combining getting on base, in other words not making outs, with how many runs you contribute to as a percentage of your plate appearances. After all, runs are the name of the game. If you are not making outs and scoring or driving in runs at a higher relative pace than average, you are doing a lot for your offense.

    #278201
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    He needs to stay healthy and make consistent contact, those comps to Ohtani and Soto are just nonsense, but potentially he can be a very productive player. He also is on a cheap deal and only 27. Not someone they should be looking to trade but to keep developing

    #278291
    jj-cf-stl
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    I’m announcing a buy early alert on Nootbaar stock. We have the comparable IsoD trend that led to Carpenters’ breackout. This selectivity suggests the optimizing of Lars future slg% w/elevated growth potential. Strong Buy.

    #278337
    gscottar
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    You are correct JJ unless/when he sneezes and cracks a rib.

    #278372
    Albert de Morcerf
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    He gets on base. A lot.

    Needs to stay healthy. Tremendous value IF he stays healthy.

    #278384
    jj-cf-stl
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    Nootbaar is very similar to Donovan in PA’s / service time.

    Lars is averaging 2.34 PA’s per service day, Donny is averaging 2.54

    DL time acquires service days also, so “availability” is baked in above.

    #278610
    Albert de Morcerf
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    Two series in the books and Noot has done an incredible job of setting the table for an improved Cardinal offense.

    Fingers crossed he stays healthy.

    #279676
    Albert de Morcerf
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    April 16th and Noot hanging with a .422 OBP. Stay healthy, Noot! You get on base. A lot!

    #279678
    1toughdominican
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    Yeah, he’s doing good.

    #279679
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    I know the numbers 1TD likes. Ribeyes (RBIs) and Rutabugas (Runs). Noot’s team standings in those

    12 Rutabugas – 1st on the team
    10 Ribeyes – tied 2nd on the team

    #279681
    1toughdominican
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    Yeah, those look good, Albert. He’s been a player with a gift for reaching base and he always brings a nice mitt to the OF. Let’s hope he can continue to fill that lead-off role and stay healthy enough to appear in enough games to possibly come close to crossing HP 90 to 100 times.

    #280491
    LACardFan
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    10 leadoff walks

    So, Nootbaar now has the lead for leadoff walks in March/April.

    #280538
    Albert de Morcerf
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    .272/.409/.427/.836
    17 RBI 18 Runs Scored

    One could make the case he’s the best leadoff man in baseball to-date this season.

    #280540
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    Those 18 runs scored are the outstanding number. I know a lot of emphasis is placed on OBP for a lead-off hitter, but in my view, OBP doesn’t mean a thing if that lead-off guy isn’t crossing HP.

    #280544
    Albert de Morcerf
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    Well one thing is certain…IF the leadoff man doesn’t get on base, he’s definitely not crossing home plate!

    And what you say isn’t entirely accurate….as a hitter can get on base, not score, but his getting on base could lead to others scoring.

    #280547
    AlbertTheMachine
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    I love Nootbaar as a player, but I think that guy Ohtani is a better hitter than Nootbaar and he also is a lead off batter. You could argue Ohtani isn’t a typical lead off. Corbin Carroll is a more typical leadoff hitter and I would take him. Those are just off the top of my head as many teams out their best hitter leadoff now to get the most PAs

    #280550
    1toughdominican
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    Rickey, Lou, Pete, Tim and Ichi were my ideas of the prototype lead-off hitter. And I’ll throw in Vince just so’s there’s two Redbirds on my list…When those guys reached 1B, it was already 1-0…

    #280595
    Albert de Morcerf
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    Well, Noot has to stay healthy…

    But….

    On pace to score 104 runs this season. And that’s with the slow Contreras start.

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